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 MY DOOMSDAY WEAPON
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 MY DOOMSDAY WEAPON
 MY DOOMSDAY WEAPON  An exhibition by Jakob S. Boeskov
April 23 - May 21 2004, Mon-Fri 1-6 pm>>
 Opening Talk: April 23 2004, 6 –7 pm
>> Opening Reception: April 23 2004, 7-10 pm

THE THING 601 West 26th Street, Floor 4
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Weapons that shoot microchips into the bodies of innocent civilians.
An artist smuggling blueprints for fake technology inside China’s first international weapons fair. Laughing arms traders drinking 30-year-old
Chivas Regal among teenage models advertising new weapons. No,
it’s not a chilling sci-fi movie; it’s reality, and a project by Danish artist
Jakob S. Boeskov.

Boeskov traveled to Beijing in June 2002 posing as the CEO of
Empire North,a fictional Scandinavian arms company. He infiltrated
CIEPE (China International Exhibition on Police Equipment) -- an
event where, for the first time, jet- setting international weapons
dealers rubbed shoulders in China.
In order to blend in, Boeskov brought 300 fake business cards and
 a poster of a horrific, hi-tech weapon.

This weapon, the ID Sniper, was designed to shoot GPS (Global Positioning System) microchips into the bodies of innocent civilians,
 whose movements later could be followed by authorities via a GPS satellite system.

Boeskov describes the 3 days at the weapons fair as “the worst
3 days of my life, like being trapped inside a nightmarish sci-fi novel that you authored yourself.”

With MY DOOMSDAY WEAPON, Boeskov develops what he calls “Fictionalism,” illustrating a need for political art to take risks by “hacking
reality.” He asks artists to “Turn your worst fears about the future
 into a product. Present this product in present day reality. Report
 the reactions.”

To read Boeskov's essay on the CIEPE and Empire North, please visit:


And to hear Boskov speak about this project on the WNYC program

Jakob S. Boeskov was born in 1975 and lives in Copenhagen, Denmark. MY
DOOMSDAY WEAPON is his first New York solo exhibition. For more
information about Boeskov and Empire North, see www.jakobboeskov.com
and www.empirenorth.dk. He can be contacted at: jakobboeskov@mail.dk.

For an online version: http://events.thing.net----------------

This exhibition is sponsored by the Danish Arts Council, the Committee
For Visual Arts, and the Committee For International Art. THE THING is
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The End Is Neigh!

Their beliefs are bonkers, but
 they are at the heart of power.
US Christian fundamentalists
are driving Bush's Middle East policy
George Monbiot Tuesday April 20, 2004The Guardian

To understand what is happening in the Middle East, you must first
understand what is happening in Texas. To understand what is happening
there, you should read the resolutions passed at the state's Republican
party conventions last month. Take a look, for example, at the decisions
made in Harris County, which covers much of Houston.

The delegates began by nodding through a few uncontroversial matters:
homosexuality is contrary to the truths ordained by God; "any mechanism to
process, license, record, register or monitor the ownership of guns" should
be repealed; income tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax and corporation
tax should be abolished; and immigrants should be deterred by electric
fences. Thus fortified, they turned to the real issue: the affairs of a
small state 7,000 miles away. It was then, according to a participant, that
the "screaming and near fist fights" began.

I don't know what the original motion said, but apparently it was "watered
down significantly" as a result of the shouting match. The motion they
adopted stated that Israel has an undivided claim to Jerusalem and the
West Bank, that Arab states should be "pressured" to absorb refugees
from Palestine, and that Israel should do whatever it wishes in seeking to
eliminate terrorism. Good to see that the extremists didn't prevail then.

But why should all this be of such pressing interest to the people of a
state which is seldom celebrated for its fascination with foreign affairs?
The explanation is slowly becoming familiar to us, but we still have some
difficulty in taking it seriously.

In the United States, several million people have succumbed to an
extraordinary delusion.

In the 19th century, two immigrant preachers cobbled together a series
of unrelated passages from the Bible to create what appears to be a
consistent narrative: Jesus will return to Earth when certain preconditions
have been met.

The first of these was the establishment of a state of Israel.
The next involves Israel's occupation of the rest of its "biblical
lands" (most of the Middle East), and the rebuilding of the Third
Temple on the site now occupied by the Dome of the Rock and
al-Aqsa mosques. The legions of the antichrist will then be
deployed against Israel, and their war will lead to a final
showdown in thevalley of Armageddon. The Jews will either
 burn or convert to Christianity,and the Messiah will return to
 Earth.

What makes the story so appealing to Christian fundamentalists is that
before the big battle begins, all "true believers" (ie those who believe
what they believe) will be lifted out of their clothes and wafted up to
heaven during an event called the Rapture. Not only do the worthy get
to sit at the right hand of God, but they will be able to watch, from the
 best seats, their political and religious opponents being devoured by boils,sores, locusts and frogs, during the seven years of Tribulation
which follow.

The true believers are now seeking to bring all this about. This
means  staging confrontations at the old temple site (in 2000, three
 US Christians  were deported for trying to blow up the mosques there), sponsoring Jewish settlements in the occupied territories, demanding
ever more US support for Israel, and seeking to provoke a final battle
with the Muslim world/Axis of Evil/United Nations/ European Union/
France or whoever the legions of the antichrist turn out to be.


The believers are convinced that they will soon be rewarded for their
efforts. The antichrist is apparently walking among us, in the guise of
Kofi Annan, Javier Solana, Yasser Arafat or, more plausibly, Silvio
 Berlusconi.

The Wal-Mart corporation is also a candidate (in my view a very
good one),because it wants to radio-tag its stock, thereby exposing
 humankind to the  Mark of the Beast.



 
The Mark of the Beast 666 will be a computer microchip called VeriChip or
VeriPay to be implanted in the hand or forehead. ...



By clicking on www.rapture ready.com, you can discover how close
 you might be to flying out of your pyjamas. The infidels among us
should take note that the Rapture Index currently stands at 144, just
 one point below thecritical threshold, beyond which the sky will be
filled with floating nudists.


Beast Government, Wild Weather and Israel are all trading at the
maximum five points (the EU is debat ing its constitution, there was
a freak hurricane in the south Atlantic, Hamas has sworn to avenge
the killing of its leaders), but the second coming is currently being
delayed by an unfortunate decline in drug abuse among teenagers
and a weak showing by the antichrist (both of which score only two).

We can laugh at these people, but we should not dismiss them. That
their beliefs are bonkers does not mean they are marginal. American pollsters believe that 15-18% of US voters belong to churches or movements which subscribe to these teachings. A survey in 1999 suggested that this figure included 33% of Republicans.

The best- selling contemporary books in the US are the 12 volumes
of the Left Behind series, which provide what is usually described as
a  "fictionalised" account of the Rapture (this, apparently,distinguishes
it  from the other one), with plenty of dripping details about what will happen to the rest of us. The people who believe all this don't believe
it just a little; for them it is a matter of life eternal and death.

And among them are some of the most powerful men in America.
John Ashcroft, the attorney general, is a true believer, so are several
prominent senators and the House majority leader, Tom DeLay.

Mr DeLay (who is also the co-author of the marvellously named DeLay-
Doolittle Amendment, postponing campaign finance reforms) travelled
 to Israel last year to tell the Knesset that "there is no middle ground, no
moderate position worth taking".

So here we have a major political constituency - representing much of
 the current president's core vote - in the most powerful nation on Earth, which is actively seeking to provoke a new world war.

Its members see the invasion of Iraq as a warm-up act, as Revelation
 (9:14-15) maintains that four angels "which are bound in the great river
Euphrates" will be released "to slay the third part of men". They batter
down the doors of the White House as soon as its support for Israel
 wavers: when Bush asked Ariel Sharon to pull his tanks out of Jenin in
 2002, he received 100,000 angry emails from Christian fundamentalists,
 and never mentioned the matter again.


The electoral calculation, crazy as it appears, works like this.
Governments stand or fall on domestic issues. For 85% of the US electorate, the MiddleEast is a foreign issue, and therefore of
secondary interest when they enter the polling booth.
America
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All of the Allah's Prophets have come
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 Its  known as Kabba, meaning square
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For 15% of the electorate, the Middle East is not just a domestic
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conflagration there, his core voters don't get to sit at the right
 hand of God.

Bush, in other words, stands to lose fewer votes by encouraging
Israeli aggression than he stands to lose by restraining it. He would
be mad to listen to these people. He would also be mad not to.

 George Monbiot's book The Age of Consent:
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  its lots of fun seeing the human ego at its best

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  VeriChip is a miniaturized implantable radio frequency identification
device (RFID) that has the potential to be used in a variety of security,
 financial, and other applications. About the size of a grain of rice, each VeriChip product contains a unique verification number and will be
 available in  several formats. The verification number is captured by
briefly passing a proprietary scanner over the VeriChip.

A small amount of radio frequency energy passes from the scanner
 energizing the dormant VeriChip, .             
   
                                                                          
Implantable chips make first run at personal ID
EE Times
February 16, 2002 (8:32 AM EST)
PARK RIDGE, Ill. — Personal identification took on a new twist Friday (Feb. 15) as four individuals
who lined up to "get chipped" became what are believed to be the world's first consumers to
ask for implantable IDs. A Florida family said Wednesday (Feb. 13) they want to be the first to
have radio-frequency identification (RFID) chips placed in their bodies, mostly as a means of
dealing with medical issues.Also, a Brazilian official will travel to the United States Friday (Feb.
15) to announce that he, too, wants to be fitted with a personal RFID chip, mainly as a
deterrent against kidnapping. The Florida family — a mother, father and 14-year-old boy — will
receive the implants after the electronic devices are approved for pilot testing by the U.S. Food
and Drug Administration. The Brazilian official will reportedly receive his implant in his left
shoulder or arm after he returns to Brazil, in about a week.

All of the individuals will be fitted with a capsule-shaped device known as the VeriChip. Made
by Applied Digital Solutions (Palm Beach, Fla.), the Verichip includes a 125-kHz RFID chip, an
electromagnetic coil for transmitting data and a tuning capacitor, all in a silicone-and-glass
enclosure measuring 11.1 x 2.1 mm. The company, which is staking its future on the potential
of implantable chips, has even trademarked the phrase "getting chipped" to describe the
process ofinstalling a human identification device. Although researchers have implanted chips
in themselves, this may be the first time four consumers have asked to have RFID  chips
implanted. As such, they will be the first to have chips that could automatically identify them
to an electronic reader, much like a human bar code.

Experts said that the decisions of those four demonstrate the potential value of such
electronic identification and simultaneously raise questions about loss of privacy. "These
people are choosing to do it, and they understand the risks," noted Stephen Keating,
executive director of the Privacy Foundation (Denver, Colo.). "But the potential risks appear
 when a technology is widely adopted, and systems build up around it, and it gradually
becomes  less voluntary."

Even the staunchest privacy advocates, however, acknowledged that the announcements
served as a powerful example of the potential of electronic personal identification. The
Florida family — Leslie, Jeff and Derek Jacobs of Boca Raton — are having the chips implanted
 as a means of dealing with medical issues. Jeff Jacobs, who has survived Hodgkins disease
and lymphoma, plans for the chip to carry medical information about himself and his son, who
 is allergic to antibiotics.


"If paramedics found me incapacitated, the chip could tell them about my medication, my heart
condition, my spinal condition, my allergies and who to contact in case of emergency," Jacobs
 said."We see these as important reasons to 'get chipped.' " Crime deterrent The reasons for
 "getting chipped" may be even more compelling for Antonio de Cunha Lima, a federal minister
and senator  from Sao Paulo, Brazil.

According to statistics from the Brazilian Ministry, there were 267 kidnappings in Sao Paulo in
2001, and there have already been 63 in 2002. The Ministry says that there is approximately
one kidnapping every 35 hours in Sao Paulo alone, and kidnappers reportedly have started
 targeting children under ten years of age as kidnap victims."Kidnapping is epidemic in Brazil
 right now," said Grayson Walker, a liason for Antonio de Cunha Lima, who does not speak
English and could not  be  interviewed.De Cunha Lima is expected to appear at Applied Digital
 Systems headquarters in Palm Beach, Fla., Friday (Feb. 13) to make the case for implantable
 identification. "He's doing this  to make a statement and to encourage others to do it," Walker
said. "There's definitely a
deterrent factor here."

Walker said that de Cunha Lima plans to use the chip in conjunction with the company's Digital
Angel product, a cigarette-pack-sized global-positioning satellite (GPS) communication device
that can be clipped on a person's belt and can automatically send alerts if that person travels
outside a prescribed radius. As the technology now stands, the VeriChip cannot be used to
track a lost individual. Instead, it can only be used from within a few feet to identify people who
are incapacitated. Walker said, however, that de Cunha Lima hopes to encourage development
of  an integrated, implantable GPS-RFID device that could be used to track lost individuals. Such
technology, while not available today, is theoretically possible in a form factor about the size
of an implantable pacemaker, engineers say. To develop such systems, researchers must first
create RFID chips that can communicate wirelessly with GPS units before some day integrating
both systems in a single package. "In South America and Central America, they are begging us
 to integrate these products," said Keith Bolton, chief technology officer for Applied Digital
Solutions. "So we have a paradox. In the U.S., people worry about privacy. In South America,
 they say, 'We want this product because we want to be found.' "

Applied Digital executives believe that the market for such devices could eventually be
enormous, ultimately reaching as high as $70 billion per year. The company is also proposing
the VeriChip's use on implantable pacemakers, defibrillators and artificial joints, as a means
of parts identification. "The human market for this technology could be huge," Bolton said.

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Brain implant ? > or?  or > or>    


In my opinion the most interesting are the religious sites like
Is the biochip the Mark of the Beast?




    

 This one looks real informative some how .
they once did an artical discussing the chip but
it was in 1999 so this is how we git  told we need it .
World War III has already begun

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What Right Do Zionist Jews Have To Palestine?
by Jason Collett, 2003-11-09  The author may be reached at colletts@mweb.co.za.

What title-deeds do the Jews of today actually have to the land of 'Israel'? The idea that a
people can possess some kind of ethnic ancestral right to a territory supposedly vacated by
 their forebears some millenia previously, implying a right in perpetuity, can have no legal basis.
Or otherwise Americans of European ancestry, to name just one group of people, will have to
pack their bags.

According to Dr Alfred Lilienthal in his book The Zionist Connection, "The Jewish population
 of Palestine [what is now Israel and the occupied territories, the West Bank and Gaza] at the
 time of the Balfour Declaration in 1917 was a mere 7 percent of the 700,000 inhabitants. The
 rest were Muslim and Christian Arabs. At the time of the (US-dominated UN) partition vote in
 1947 there were only 650,000 Jews in Palestine while there were 1.3 million indigenous
 Palestinian Arabs, either Christian or Muslim. Under the partition plan, 56% of Palestine was
 given for a Zionist state to people who constituted 33% of the population and owned about 6%
 of the land. These UN figures have never been in dispute."

But there is a further issue, which also (yet again!) demonstrates the fundamentally questionable
 foundations of Zionism.
Jews are actually not even the modern descendents of the Israel of the Biblical Old Testament:
According to both the early-20th-century popular historian H.G.Wells and the Hungarian-Jewish
 intellectual and author Arthur Koestler, amongst numerous others, the people known today as
 Jews are primarily the descendents of a Turkish tribe known as the Khazars. The Khazars have
 no historical connection to Palestine.

They converted to Judaism between 620 and 740AD, and have no genetic connection to biblical
Israel, and hence to the narratives of the Bible and the "Holy Land". Koestler actually devoted an
 entire book called The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) to the fact that the Jews of eastern European
origin, who are known as the Ashkenazi Jews and who make up about 95% of the Jewish
population of today, are of Khazar origin. In other words — virtually all of the Jews of the modern
 world have no Hebrew ancestry, and no ancient connection with Palestine.
Jewish author, Arthur Koestler has published a 255 page book titled THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE which proves the Eastern European Jews are NOT related to Abraham ...


Does it matter? Does world peace matter? Do the human rights of a violently oppressed
 people
 matter? Does anything but sport and television sitcoms matter?

Arthur Koestler was by no means the first to draw attention to this particular issue. He
quotes from 20th-century works on the subject by, amongst others, Professors A.N.Poliak
of Tel Aviv University, D.M. Dunlop of Columbia University in New York, and J.B. Bury of
Cambridge University. The courageous Jewish anti-Zionist commentator Dr Alfred
 Lilienthal raised the issue 50 years ago and has continued to do so for decades. In fact,
 the famous H.G.Wells in the and stated that "[to the] Jewish Khazars ... are to be ascribed
the great settlements of Jews in Poland and Russia" (Chap. XXXII:8) and "The main part
of Jewry never was in Judea, and never came out of Judea" (XXIX:1).

Lord Moyne, the British secretary of state in Cairo, declared on June 9, 1942, in the House of
 Lords that the Jews were not the descendants of the ancient Hebrews and that they had no
"legitimate claim" on the Holy Land. A proponent of curtailing immigration into Palestine, he
was accused of being "an implacable enemy of Hebrew independence." (Isaac Zaar, Rescue
 and Liberation: America's Part in the Birth of Israel, New York: Bloch, 1954, p. 115).
On November 6, 1944, Lord Moyne was assassinated in Cairo by two members of the Stern
Gang led by Yitzak Shamir, latter to become premier of Israel. (This assassination was not
unique in the history of Zionism.

In September 1948 Count Folke Bernadotte, appointed by the UN as mediator between the
Zionist settlers in Palestine and the native Palestinians, was murdered on orders from the
 same Yitzhak Shamir. Count Bernadotte was the head of the Swedish Red Cross and had
 risked his life to save thousands of Jews from German concentration camps.

 This set a precedent and encouragement for the Zionist use of assassination as a convenient
political instrument, which the US and European governments have in effect condoned since
 then.)
Much old documentary evidence exists on the subject of the Khazars dating from the ninth
and tenth centuries and earlier — from Arab, Byzantine, Hebrew, Russian and other sources.
 The conversion of the Khazars to Judaism is described in the so-called 'Khazar
Correspondence' dating from the tenth century between Hasdai Ibn Shaprut, the Jewish
 chief minister of the Caliph of Cordoba in Spain, and Joseph, the king of the Khazars.
In this the king traces the ancestry of his people not to Shem, father of the Semites, but to
 Japheth, Noah's third son. The Book of Genesis (10:2,3) itself also describes Ashkenaz
as a descendent of Japheth, rather than Shem.

 In other words, the Jews are not a Semitic people, but their contempt for the Arab world and their bitter and violent war of dispossession against the Palestinian Arabs could be termed anti-Semitic.

The Khazars were formerly well known as a powerful people who, at their peak, 'controlled or
 exacted tribute from some 30 different nations and tribes' (Koestler), and were the supreme
 masters of the southern half of eastern Europe for more than a century. The Caspian Sea is
 still known today in Arabic as Bahr-ul-Khazar, 'the Khazar Sea'. These people controlled trade
on the Dnieper, the Don and Volga Rivers between the Swedish Vikings, known as the Rus
 (the founders of Russia) in the north, and Byzantium-Constantinople (capital of the Eastern
 Roman Empire), Persia and Arabia in the south. The extent of trade along these rivers is
indicated by the very large number of Arab coins, approximately 50,000 found, strangely
enough, in Sweden and dating from Viking times.

After their conversion to 'Judaism', a religion based primarily on the teachings of the Pharisees
and the Talmud, the Khazars adopted circumcision and became known as the 'Jewish Khazars'
and then later simply as 'Jews'. Before the conversion, the 'Jewish' population of the entire region
 was sparse; afterwards, understandably, it suddenly became large. Writing in the 10th century,
 the Muslim chronicler Muqaddasi says 'In Khazaria, sheep, honey and Jews exist in large
quantities' (Koestler p. 43).
After being defeated by the Rus around 965 AD, the power of the Khazars waned, and a gradual
migration commenced westwards and northwestwards into Eastern Europe — the Ukraine,
Hungary, Poland and Lithuania. Koestler shows that Yiddish (the former Jewish lingua franca
of eastern Europe which is classed as a German dialect) developed not in Germany but in
 Poland as an amalgam of German, Hebrew and Slavonic (Russian and Polish) — the strong
 German basis of the language being the result of the German social and cultural prominence
in the main cities of Poland in medieval times (Koestler Chapt. VII:3). Hebrew itself was only
used for liturgical and rabbinic-scholastic purposes, not for everyday communication.

 No archaeological or other evidence exists of the use in biblical times of the six-pointed
'star of David', the emblem of the Ashkenazi Jews and the Israeli state, and the yarmulke,
 the skullcap worn by Jewish males, likewise has no biblical foundation.

So neither the use of Hebrew nor the star of David nor the wearing of the yarmulke indicate
 any historical connection with the territory. Koestler says: "The historical evidence ...
indicates that the bulk of Eastern Jewry — and hence of world Jewry --- is of Khazar-Turkish,
rather than Semitic, origin" (p. 175).

This of course poses various interesting questions on many issues, including that of the violent
 and manipulative Jewish takeover of Palestine during the last century. The reason these
questions are not asked is that the story of the Khazar conversion is generally so little known.

 The academic, church and media establishments generally have shown no interest in
 correcting such an awkward and fundamental misperception, the source of so much suffering
and spilt blood.

They consider the issue to be unimportant or potentially dangerous in spite of the shocking
 human-rights outrages that the mainly Khazar-descended 'Israelis' and their Khazar-
descended international Zionist supporters have perpetrated against the native people
 in Palestine over the last century.

Is there any doubt about the issue?

The British journalist Douglas Reed, former chief Central European correspondent of the
Times, in 1950 wrote "The Eastern European Zionists are not Semites (though the Arabs are),
 have no semitic blood, and their remote forefathers never trod Palestinian earth."

Mr Benjamin Freedman, a Jewish industrialist born in New York, wrote in the Economic
 Council Letter published there of October 15 1947: "These Eastern European Jews have
 neither a racial nor a historic connection with Palestine. Their ancestors were not inhabitants
 of the Promised Land.

They are the direct descendants of the people of the Khazar Kingdom. The Khazars were a
non-semitic, Turko-Mongolian tribe."

Mr Freedman was challenged, unwisely, by a Zionist objector. He invited his challenger to go
 with him to the Jewish Room of the New York Public Library. There they could together
 examine the Jewish Encyclopaedia volume I pp. 1-12, and the published works of Graetz,
Dubnow, Friedlander, Raisin and many other noted Jewish historians, which, as well as other
 non-Jewish authorities, "establish the fact beyond all possible doubt." (Somewhere South of
 Suez, 1950, pp. 349-350.) If the Khazar account is untrue, we can be sure that a swift and
comprehensive rebuttal would have followed Koestler's book and Lilienthal's long-standing
 allegations, let alone those of H.G.Wells.

 Can anyone name the book or books in which such a rebuttal appeared?

To confuse the Jews of today with the Hebrews of the Bible is like believing that the Cherokee
 'Indians' not only follow the Hindu religion but will eventually return in triumph to the valley of the
 sacred Ganges.

The author may be reached at colletts@mweb.co.za.


November 19, 1999/10 Kislev 5760, Vol. 52, No.12
Jewish/Native American links examined
JANET YAGODA SHAGAM
New Mexico Jewish Link
Jews and Native Americans are linked because "we are both people of the story, people
whose sense of history and tradition are deeply entwined."

So said Harold Littlebird of Laguna Pueblo, N.M., whose invocation helped set the tone at the
 New Mexico Jewish Historical Society's 12th Annual Conference in Albuquerque last
weekend, Nov. 12-14.

The conference topic, "Jews and Native Americans on the Frontier," drew nearly 200 people,
 some coming from as far away as Canada and Maryland to the conference.

Northern New Mexico Rabbi Gershon Winkler, in a pre-recorded presentation, told the
audience that connections between the two people run deeper than a common history of
persecution. Jews and Native Americans are both "tribal peoples, people who are connected
to the earth through nature-based mysticism," said Winkler, who is executive director of the
Walking Stick Foundation, a Jewish Native American partnership dedicated to the recovery
and preservation of indigenous spirituality.

Although this is a thread common to all agriculturally based civilizations, audience member
Albert Sattin of Los Angeles remarked that this type of study is a way for Jews "to understand
our aboriginal roots, something that has been lost since we have become an urban people."

Conference speaker Laura Nodworthy, author of the Native American-Jewish drama "The
Memory Keepers," commented that "Jews in America were given a future, but lost the past."


On Saturday, the conference moved from its central location at the Wool Warehouse in
downtown Albuquerque to Acoma Pueblo, an hour west of the city. Conference attendees
toured the pueblo and met with Acoma Gov. Lloyd Tortolito, as well as with some descendants
 of Solomon Bibo, a Jewish pioneer who was the first non-Indian governor of Acoma pueblo.

On Sunday, Abraham Chanin, a historian, journalist and archivist from Tucson, Ariz., gave a
presentation concerning the relationship between American Indians and Jewish pioneers of
the Southwest. Chanin said that both peoples marked this era with deeds of heroism and
brutality.

Chanin is the founder of the Southwest Jewish Archives at the University of Arizona.

The New Mexico Jewish Historical Society, which has a 400-person membership from New
Mexico and around the country, was founded nearly 20 years ago.

The society can be reached at www.nmjewishhistory.com or by writing New Mexico Jewish
Historical Society, POB 23056, Santa Fe, N.M. 87502.


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  Some say its hoplessly hoakey but I included The Venus project is beautifully presented.
  its lots of fun seeing the human ego at its best

    *************************** NEXT MORE ON THIS !!

  2 miles thick with 1 mile deep cracks
 called fissures its history is our  
  history too ..
  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If you think war, terrorism and man made problems like weapons drugs & oil are serious
problems get over it nothing can compare to the potential coming global Earth changes
 that may flood most of the earth effecting all  population's with 200 foot tides for the next
 20,000 years.


And you thought radio active waist was  "the big secret" accident waiting to happen.
 Forgedaboutit!!  Nothing short of a new paradigm regarding our use of  resources and
global cooperating on an unprecedented scale will produce anything like a survivable world.

Check it out for your self read between the lines try to visualize the reality and what it means.
Let go of politics race religion and any thing you think you already know about the "big picture"
 all history is a lie in time, there can be a world that is unified by the common struggle to be
prepared to live together on the earth in peace and common sense or continue the descent
into chaos and defeatism of war and greed.

    XYZXYZ wrote:

       ----- Original Message -----
       From: XYZXYZ
       To: XYZXYZ
       Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:35 AM
Underclass payback Some 3 Card Monte action
It seems NASA Landsat radio x ray
satellite  sees atomic subs under
Polar ice & Beer cans in the deepest
ocean trench... Coups! End game, Shell Game. Check mate!
NASA Landsat ( radio x ray  satellite)  sees atomic subs under polar ice & beer cans in Marianneus Trench.
CIA and Pentagon must create new global enemy  to justify spending over 45% of real GNP or go Reichstag
 & Blitzkrieg peace & prosperity out of business & create grater dependence on the current Junta in power.
Subject:
The shit has Hit The Fan!!
Re:Wow ! Under Antarctica, Clues to an Icecap's Fate

    might be the actual end of all human life ...

    Thanks XYZXYZ.
    It was grate talking with you such a positive energy... Wow !
    Clearing the desk and gearing up I need at least a week ...
    Preparing for the 18th ... etc .

    Be well please keep in touch ....

    That radio x ray  satellite or one like it  ( by NASA Landsat ) is in
    one scenario responsible for the closing down of the cold war...
It sees atomic subs under Polar ice & Beer cans in the deepest ocean trench ...
   Some 3 Card Mountie action  ...
    A very simple B/W image on the cover of Science mag 8 or  10 years ago
    with a follow up apology to that DOD the following month regarding any
    breach  of security concerns ..
    Oops !

    Be well
    XYZXYZ

  1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
    __________________________________________

    Dear XYZXYZ,

       We seem to be on the same wavelength.
        A review of  my files has turned up a couple of reasonable
    technnologies that have the capability of creating very large, floating
    foundations which, in aggregate, have the capabilities of:
           a: being infinitely expandable
           b. remaining stable, even in high seas (immune to wave motion)
           c. responding to short and long-term changes in water depth (due
       to tides, ice deposition from the East and or/West Antactica
    depositions of ice or other major sources of  such  changes.)
       These foundations can be used as bases upon which a series of
    individual buildings can be constructed within an extended time frame

       The technologies referenced  provide four useful functions:
           1. A means for establishing a peripheral barrier that can  serve
      effectively as a 360 degree breakwater that can function during,
    before or after water level changes.
           2. A means for establishing a stable platform from which
    appropriate buoys and weights can be launched for the activation of
    mechanisms for generating electrical power from wave action.
           3. A means for fabricating large, rigid platforms that can be
    used as individual building foundations.
           4. A means for supporting those platforms so that they will
    remain planar..i.e. will not impart any twisting moments to structures
    erected upon them

        I'm clearly interested in your project. Do  let me know how, if
    and when I can help and what
       basis for my participation you may have in mind.

       Regards,

      XYZXYZ

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  __________________________________________

    XYZXYZ wrote:

       Dear XYZXYZ,

       An interesting conversation this evening that I look forward to
    continuing.

       Your remarks about Antarctica raised my curiosity.  Found an article
    in the NY Times: October 16,1999  that rounds out your thesis in disturbing detail.

       If you haven't already put in in your files, you can download it from

       The phrases that really surprised and disturbed me  most:
    "Geothermal and volcanic heating as well as atmospheric warming apparently
    maintain a layer of liquid water and mud between the ice sheet and underlying
    rock, allowing the ice to slide fairly freely ( The italics are mine).

       While XYZXYZ's remark about a city floating in the air sounded
    funny, I seem to recall that  Bucky Fuller actually proposed that such a structure
    of great enough size and covered by an appropriate transparent membrane could
    indeed be supported  by atmospheric pressure since the greenhouse effect would
     provide a net  displacement of ambient air by the solar-heated atmosphere beneath
      that membrane.

       Do keep me posted.
    Regards,

      XYZXYZ

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  __________________________________________

    XYZXYZ wrote:

    Dear XYZXYZ,

       Fascinating Stuff on this new light-weight carbon material.  My
    three year old grandson and I have been having fun playing with the
   wonderful animated  models on Soda.
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  The Venus project is beautifully presented.

     I was much involved with another intentional community program back
    in the early sixties.
     I was living in ( XYZXYZ.)  XYZXYZ  appeared on  BBC one evening and
    proposed a "survival" community that might be organized somewhere in
    the South Seas.

     But that was long ago and far away. As I get ever closer to my 9th
    decade (which begins  within the next two years)...new adventures are still
    intriguing..but I find that time is an increasingly precious commodity..
    so I entertain them very selectively.

    This summer my wife and I will be touring in XYZXYZ,XYZXYZ XYZXYZ,.
     After  our return at the end of August we'll be visiting friends and
     relatives in XYZXYZ and XYZXYZ until the beginning of  September  I

       So.., although I'm planning to tour with my Lap Top in hand, but I'm
    not counting on large quantities of creative output for the summer.
     Again.  Thanks for he E-mails

       Regards

       XYZXYZ


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The Week That Was November 20, 1999

 NEW ON THE SEPP WEB:

 Sea-level rise is probably the most-feared consequence of a putative global warming.
 But  --- surprise, surprise --  the science now says otherwise.  SL will continue to rise
 for many thousands of years more, no matter what we do!  But greenhouse warming
may slow it down somewhat.  You may agree after you read our essay; but how to
convince the politicians?


 WHAT ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE?  IS IT REAL?

 If you have read the essay on “New on the SEPP Web,” you already know the answer:
 Real but not man-made.  Relax and listen to scare stories:

 From Dan Rather on CBS NEWS Monday, November 1,1999: Smith Island Is Drowning:

 As the New Year approaches, CBS News is looking ahead to what you can expect in the
 21st century.  Ten miles and a world away from Maryland's eastern shore lies a tiny,
 forgotten piece of America, an old jewel poking out of the Chesapeake. But its days are
numbered, because slowly but surely, Smith Island is drowning.

 The problem with Smith Island is that the water around it is rising. And to make matters
 worse, the land is sinking. A strong high tide can easily swamp the island, which sits a
mere two feet above sea level.

 Smith Island may seem an unimportant relic of the past but in fact, it offers a disturbing
glimpse into the next millennium.

 "Smith Island's a look ahead, it's a precursor of what we expect to happen to other islands
 in the future, to other low lying islands," says coastal scientist Stephen Leatherman.
 Leatherman says the rising sea level that's engulfing the island is a direct result of global
 warming.  "We expect the possibility of as much sea level rise as three feet over the next
century," says Jerry Mahlman of the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration.

 The damage, according to some models, could be catastrophic: whole sections of South
Florida, North Carolina's Outer Banks, New Jersey's barrier islands, and even New Orleans,
will be under water.
 "This problem is a candidate to be the defining problem of the 21st century.  In my view the
 only thing that would make it not a leading candidate would be World War III," says Mahlman.  
Sea level rise is  just the beginning: Fueled by larger, warmer seas, scientists predict
 hurricanes will become more  intense.

 There's more: Floods like the one that devastated Grand Forks, North Dakota, two years
 ago will be more common. There'll be more heat waves, like the 1995 Chicago scorcher
that took 700 lives.
 "Philadelphia would be more like New Orleans," says Mahlman. "Where New Orleans
 would become like I don't know what," he added.
 **************
 [SEPP web readers will not be surprised by Jerry's dire forecasts.  And he is the
government's leading climate modeler!!]
 *************

 And now from a book review of Michael Grubb's "The Kyoto Protocol --- a Guide and an
 Assessment'' by British enviro Aubrey Meyers, for whom Kyoto is not enough:

 "Although global climate change raises dreadful problems that the Kyoto Protocol does
little to address,  Michael Grubb's book hails it as a "remarkable achievement". This should
 be taken with a pinch of salt.

 If you asked people from the Maldives what they felt about the Protocol, they'd probably
 say, frightened about their lack of a future. They know that accumulating greenhouse gas
 emissions warm the planet and expand the oceans and obliterate them, and God knows
whom and what else. Their fears have a message for us all: - this problem is global and
 needs a global solution. "Equity and survival" sums it up. Everyone has to be in as no one
is saved until everyone is saved.
 ****************


 And now, for a little common sense in The Christian Science Monitor (Oct. 8, 1999):

 Surprise theory behind big Antarctic thaw:  Global warming isn't to blame. Ice field
will shrink regardless, threatening coasts.

 Amid increasing evidence of global warming, scientists have pointed to thawing polar
icecaps in Antarctica and rising sea levels that threaten to flood low-lying islands the
 world over as side effects of the planet heating up.

 But new evidence from Antarctica published today in the journal Science indicates the
thawing of at least one major ice field is a natural event that has little to do with global
 warming.

 Aside from challenging accepted theories behind global warming, these findings
illustrate the complexities that go along with predicting how the earth will react to
 high levels of fuel consumption and deforestation, supposedly the two main causes
 of global warming.

 At issue is the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. This frozen wasteland measures 360,000
square miles, an area larger than Texas and Colorado combined.  The WAIS is one
of the largest ice sheets on the planet, and for that reason, it could have an enormous
effect on sea levels worldwide.

 Unlike any other ice sheet, the WAIS is anchored to land below sea level what's known
as a marine ice sheet. Because of its ocean exposure and position on the sea floor,
scientists say it is potentially unstable and could be more affected by changes in sea
level or ocean temperature than other ice fields.

 Sure enough, the WAIS is changing faster than any other ice sheet.  It has shrunk at
a rate of about 400 feet per year during the past 7,600 years, according to the scientists.

 All told, the WAIS has receded about 800 miles since the height of the last ice age,
10,000 years ago.

According to the researchers' calculations, the Western Antarctic ice shield could
 completely collapse in the next 7,000 years.

I AM NOT BUYING  OR BETTING ON THE DATE. ED
 (At issue is the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. This frozen wasteland measures 360,000 square
miles, an area larger than Texas and Colorado combined.  The WAIS is one of the largest
ice sheets on the planet, and for that reason, it could have an enormous effect on sea levels
 worldwide.)

 But the thawing of the WAIS long predates the period when mankind began to change
 the chemistry of the atmosphere through fossil-fuel burning and deforestation. In fact,
during most of the period of the ice sheet's thaw, global temperatures were relatively stable.
 Furthermore, the pace at which the WAIS is thawing has not appreciably sped up during
the recent decades when global warming has really begun to show up. This implies that
 global warming, at least so far, has little to do with the shrinking of the WAIS.

 "What we are suggesting is that the ice sheet may continue to retreat regardless of any
global warming or future rise in sea level."  "Certainly warming up the oceans or expansion
 of the ocean could help the ice sheet retreat more quickly," says Howard Conway, a
University of Washington geophysicist and  lead author of the Science article.

 But Dr. Conway also admits that the thawing will probably continue regardless of whether
 mankind gets their global warming affairs in order.  Alternatively, global warming could
also make the ice fields grow.

 "With continued warming there might be increased precipitation down there which
would feed the ice sheet as well," says Conway, alluding to the scenarios that could
 all plausibly play out as a result of global warming.
 ***************


 Global Warming Not to Blame for Melting of Huge Ice Sheet
 (By Associated Press, as reported in the NEW YORK TIMES on October 12, 1999)


 WASHINGTON  The huge West Antarctic Ice Sheet may be headed for a complete
meltdown in a process that a new study indicates was started thousands of years ago,
and not as a result of global warming or other changes brought on by humans.

 But the future of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet "may have been predetermined when the
 grounding line retreat was triggered in early Holocene time," which was about 10,000
years ago, according to a team of scientists that was led by Dr. Howard Conway of the
 University of Washington in Seattle. They  reported their findings on Friday [Oct. 8] in
 the journal Science.

 The grounding line is the boundary between floating ice and ice thick enough to reach
 the sea floor, and the scientists found that line has receded about 800 miles since the
last ice age, withdrawing at an average of about 400 feet per year for the last 7,600 years.

 Referring to the melting, Dr. Conway said, "It seems like the rate that been going on since
 the early Holocene is similar to the rate right now." Dr. Conway said.

 "Collapse appears to be part of an ongoing natural cycle, probably caused by rising sea
level initiated by the melting of the Northern Hemisphere ice sheets at the end of the last
ice age." Dr. Conway added in a telephone interview.

 Continued shrinking of the ice sheet, perhaps even complete disintegration, "could well
be inevitable," the report concluded.

 According to estimates, the ice sheet's complete melting could raise the global sea level
 by 15 to 20  feet, swamping low-lying coastal communities worldwide.  But, at the current
rate of melting, that would take about 7,000 years, the researchers estimated.
 **************
 Our problem now is to convince the politicians to pay attention to the science.
 We need your help...

The Week That Was November 20, 1999

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  Some say its hoplessly hoakey but I included The Venus project is beautifully presented.
  its lots of fun seeing the human ego at its best

    *************************** NEXT MORE ON THIS !!

  2 miles thick with 1 mile deep cracks called fissures
 its history is our    history too ..
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If you think war, terrorism and man made problems like weapons drugs & oil are serious problems
get over it nothing can compare to the potential coming global Earth changes that may flood most
of the earth effecting all  population's with 200 foot tides for the next 20,000 years.


And you thought radio active waist was  "the big secret" accident
waiting to happen. Forgedaboutit!! Nothing  short of a new paradigm
regarding our use of  resources and global cooperating on an
 unprecedented scale will produce anything like a survivable world.

Check it out for your self read between the lines try to visualize the reality and what it means.
 Let go of politics race religion and any thing you think you already know about the "big picture"
all history is a lie in time, there can be a world that is unified by the common struggle to be
prepared to live together on the earth in peace and common sense or continue the descent
into chaos and defeatism of war and greed.

The  so called face on mars is a projection of a desperate raciest
fantasy that extends to the delusion that no human of color can or
ever could do any thing " Great " like THE GREAT PYRAMID.
Adolph Hitler made the same assumption
about Jessie Owens and other Afro-genic
 Olympians " Western man turns so often to
 myth and out right fraud in order to face what
 they can't except ." This would be a humorous
if not sad foot note of history, if not for the fact
as it is all too apparent, it is easier to lie about
previous spurious superior past civilizations
 than to learn the lesson of there demise or
mythic fraudulent origins .

++++ all of this was pree 911++++

    XYZXYZ wrote:

       ----- Original Message -----
       From: XYZXYZ
       To: XYZXYZ
       Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:35 AM

       Subject: Re: Wow ! Under Antarctica, Clues to an Icecap's Fate
    might be the actual end of all human life ...

    Thanks XYZXYZ.
    It was grate talking with you such a positive energy... Wow !
    Clearing the desk and gearing up I need at least a week ...
    Preparing for the 18th ... etc .

    Be well please keep in touch ....

    That radio x ray  satellite or one like it  ( by NASA Landsat ) is in
    one scenario responsible for the closing down of the cold war... It sees
    atomic subs under Polar ice & Beer cans in the deepest ocean trench ...
   Some 3 Card Mountie action  ...
    A very simple B/W image on the cover of Science mag 8 or  10 years ago
    with a follow up apology to that DOD the following month regarding any
    breach  of security concerns ..
    Oops !

    Be well
    XYZXYZ

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    __________________________________________

    Dear XYZXYZ,

       We seem to be on the same wavelength.
        A review of  my files has turned up a couple of reasonable
    technnologies that have the capability of creating very large, floating
    foundations which, in aggregate, have the capabilities of:
           a: being infinitely expandable
           b. remaining stable, even in high seas (immune to wave motion)
           c. responding to short and long-term changes in water depth (due
       to tides, ice deposition from the East and or/West Antactica
    depositions of ice or other major sources of  such  changes.)
       These foundations can be used as bases upon which a series of
    individual buildings can be constructed within an extended time frame

       The technologies referenced  provide four useful functions:
           1. A means for establishing a peripheral barrier that can  serve

       effectively as a 360 degree breakwater that can function during,
    before or after water level changes.
           2. A means for establishing a stable platform from which
    appropriate buoys and weights can be launched for the activation of
    mechanisms for generating electrical power from wave action.
           3. A means for fabricating large, rigid platforms that can be
    used as individual building foundations.
           4. A means for supporting those platforms so that they will
    remain planar..i.e. will not impart any twisting moments to structures
    erected upon them

        I'm clearly interested in your project. Do  let me know how, if
    and when I can help and what
       basis for my participation you may have in mind.

       Regards,

      XYZXYZ

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  __________________________________________

    XYZXYZ wrote:

       Dear XYZXYZ,

       An interesting conversation this evening that I look forward to
    continuing.

       Your remarks about Antarctica raised my curiosity.  Found an article
    in the NY Times: October 16,1999  that rounds out your thesis in disturbing detail.

       If you haven't already put in in your files, you can download it from

       The phrases that really surprised and disturbed me  most:
    "Geothermal and volcanic heating as well as atmospheric warming apparently
    maintain a layer of liquid water and mud between the ice sheet and underlying
    rock, allowing the ice to slide fairly freely ( The
       italics are mine).

       While XYZXYZ's remark about a city floating in the air sounded
    funny, I seem to recall that  Bucky Fuller actually proposed that such a structure
    of great enough size and covered by an appropriate transparent membrane could
    indeed be supported  by atmospheric pressure since the greenhouse effect would
     provide a net  displacement of ambient air by the solar-heated atmosphere beneath
      that membrane.

       Do keep me posted.
    Regards,

      XYZXYZ

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    XYZXYZ wrote:

    Dear XYZXYZ,
 Fascinating Stuff on this new light-weight carbon material.  My
three year old grandson  and I have been having fun playing with the
 wonderful animated models on Soda.
The Venus project is beautifully presented.
    http://www.thevenusproject.com/

   I was much involved with another intentional community program back
    in the early sixties.

       I was living in ( XYZXYZ.)  XYZXYZ  appeared on  BBC one evening and
    proposed a  "survival" community that might be organized somewhere in
    the South  Seas.

       But that was long ago and far away. As I get ever closer to my 9th
      decade (which begins  within the next two years)...new adventures are still
      intriguing..but I find that time is an  increasingly precious commodity..so I
      entertain them very selectively.

       This summer my wife and I will be touring in XYZXYZ,XYZXYZ XYZXYZ,.
    After our return at the end of August we'll be visiting friends and relatives in
    XYZXYZ and   XYZXYZ until the beginning of  September  I
      So.., although I'm planning to tour with my Lap Top in hand, but I'm
    not counting on large quantities of creative output for the summer.
    Again.  Thanks for he E-mails

       Regards

       XYZXYZ

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This is not mine but it is possibly of interest
 it's anti nuke with a twist ...
Subject: From their reactors to kids mouths?

Also check out  other Nuke Info...
This issue was as horrendous as it was stupid !
NIRS: 1999 Radioactive Metal Recycling ALERT
 public comment deadline 7/5/99
CMEP: Rad Metal 2/98 Update
Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project

Hello All:
          We are happy to report that the US Environmental
Protection Agency received just over 150 letters in response
to their proposal to allow the reuse of radioactive metal for
consumer products. Only one or two of those comments
 were from companies. The majority of the letters told EPA
that consumers do not want any radioactivity in their products.
This is an amazing show of our cohesiveness on this issue--

considering we only had 3 very busy holiday months to
organize. Way to go!
 EPA is in the process of analyzing the letters and will
determine if they will go forward with a formal rulemaking
process within two months.
EPA has admitted that the number of negative comments
will influence this decision.

Furthermore EPA is still taking comments despite the formal closure of the
comment period on January 31 1998.
 Therefore we should not let up on our pressure to prevent the release
of this harmful metal into the public realm.

 Please continue to send comments to
 Please also copy your letter to me
          Jessica Vallette (vallette@citizen.org).
          Keep up the excellent work!

Direct your comments or questions:
Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project
215 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE
Washington DC 20003
phone: 202-546-4996   fax: 202-547-7392
This is not mine but it is possibly of interest
it's anti nuke with a twist ...










++++ all of this was pree 911++++
 
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