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By no means Paranoid although widely varied stuff from friends. The week
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 Colonialism in Africa sent to me by one of the people I know named Lee.
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we stand fully on the side of the Americans" Quote from an Italian
woman standing in front of the Vatican today Sept. 13 20001
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From:   EvergreenReview <evergreen@nyc.rr.com>
Subject:  Our Humanity Is Still Here Date:      Sat, 15 Sep 2001 From:   
  Barney Rosset

We have some sayings; We shall overcome, Our flag was still there ---
we,that part of humanity which  has learned, with such great sacrifice,
to try and learn to accept all of us, to take the risk to encompass the
multi-splendored  panoramas of all peoples, to allow the burgeoning
 of such things as the right to speak out , no matter how unpopular
 your thoughts might be, to take the terrible risk of letting all peoples
proclaim their beliefs, without fear of becoming outcasts, are we now
 prepared to give this all up for the benefits of a police state which we
 have fought all these years to avoid, because one vicious group
of money laden killers has tried to destroy the very values which we
claim to be part of us.

Can we  not understand, even while we understandably protect ourselves,
that despite the good things we have done to help others, has also
resulted in the protracted poverty and misery of so many in the other
parts of our common planet and this part of our lives has made us the
prey of the monstrous, anti-human , wealth endowed creatures, who so
 often with our complicity, have found us only too easy a target for revenge.
Now our President immediately gets 40 billion dollars more for the
defense of our country - and just for a moment, let us imagine how this
additional 40 billion might be used.

What if we set aside a part of it, to be used immediately to set up a
world park where the twin towers had been. What if we were to ask all
countries and peoples of the world to work with us , to contribute their
work, their people, their individual expertise, to come, now, right
away, to help rebuild the infrastructure necessary for daily life and
then go on to making a glorious site for the celebration of holiness on
earth. Instead of God Bless America, how about letting Humanity Bless
Humanity in all its Sacred Forms.

Instead of phallic fingers to the sky, have vistas of beauty to the sea,
put there by all of us, owned by all of us, a place for Americans to
show their pride and love for all of us. Would the bin Ladens of the
world attack that symbol, shielded by the earth and the ocean. Who
would celebrate a destruction of that. Let that place, lower Manhattan,
pay tender love for those who perished there in order that a new kind of
human consciousness could arise. Let such a place start immediately,
with the kind of self-sacrifice now being made by American workers
 and doctors and engineers and police and military forces, people of
 all callings and religions, men , women and children, calling upon their
peers from all over the world, to come and participate , to alleviate
our tragedy, to make what we have lost become a new found value,
 to not forget those grieving families, to retain this wonderful always
newly generated ability to work together, to regroup and regenerate
 new life.

Let us think of this out pouring of grief and love and generosity as
carving out the pathway for a humanity which can live side by side,
without destroying the very freedoms which it has created with such
bloodshed, because of the very weaknesses always lurking within
ourselves which we so detest to see from the outside.

Let a chance be given to a beautiful world site bordering the ocean,
singing a clear message, all are welcome. The bin Ladens will need
another target. Let us not provide them with more such symbols: twin
towers, pentagons, overgrown military installations, mountain hideouts
for the elite.

Intelligence can also reside in the soul, in the hearts of all humans.
Missile  defense  and bombs need not  represent our highest
achievements.

 If we can resist the siren call of the closed society, the walled in special
 people, and reach out to the real future, a place of holiness for all, in all
 places, a sharing of our bounties for the common good, not just for the
 defense of the already empowered, but for all of us, then one can die,
believing that there is a truly holy future,  and that what one has tried to
do and believe in can be passed on to that which we call humanity.

We do not need  special dispensation from outside forces, but we can
gratefully accept help from others of compassionate beliefs. However
ultimately and eternally we need our own inner souls to rest intact.

Humanity, bless humanity.

Barney Rosset
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very credible guy. gives pause. -margot  I strongly recommend, for anyone who
wants to find further background
material on the issues herein check out the websites
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Subject: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:45:56 EDT From: Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 12:33am
Subject: FW: Theory about Sept. 11

I have NEVER come to this list with a plea that you must read something. I do so now.
This retired  Special Forces Master Sergeant, Stan Goff,
Has got it ALL figured out.

" I agree with his analyses completely and was just starting  to write my own
oil piece. Please,for the love of freedom and our future, read the following essay. Now!"

Mike Ruppert "From The Wilderness" www.copvcia.com
Subject: FW: Theory about Sept. 11 Another interesting article. A couple of years ago
Stan Goff wrote in the Raleigh NC paper about his experiences in Colombia.

Well, I don't know how new it is, it's the first I've seen it... I'm very resistant
 to conspiracy theories, but there are aspects of this one that I find compelling.
 Also, if you read down to the end, even though it's rather long, the discussion
of the attack already begun on socialist and anti-globalization groups is worth reading.

I'm a retired Special Forces Master Sergeant. That doesn't cut much for those
 who will only accept the opinions of former officers on military matters, since
 we enlisted swine are assumed to be incapable of grasping the nuances of doctrine.

But I wasn't just in the army, I studied and taught military science and doctrine.  I was a tactics instructor at the Jungle Operations Training Center in Panama, and I taught Military Science at West Point.

 And contrary to the popular image of what Special Forces does, SF's mission is to teach. We offer
 advice and assistance to foreign forces. That's everything from teaching marksmanship to a private to instructing a Battalion staff on how to coordinate effective air operations with a sister service.

Based on that experience, and operations in eight designated conflict areas from Vietnam to Haiti,
I have to say that the story we hear on the news and read in the newspapers is simply not believable.

The most cursory glance at the verifiable facts, before, during, and after September 11th, does not support the official line or conform to the current actions of the United States government.

But the official line only works if they can get everyone to accept its underlying  premises. I'm not
 at all surprised about the Republican and Democratic Parties repeating these premises.They are simply two factions within a single dominant political class, and both are financed by the same economic powerhouses.

 My biggest disappointment, as someone who identifies himself with the left,
 has been the tacit acceptance of those premises by others on the left, sometimes
 naively, and sometimes to score some morality points.
Those premises are twofold. One, there is the premise that what this de facto administration is doing now is a "response" to September 11th. Two, there is the premise that this attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was done by people based in Afghanistan. In my opinion, neither of these is sound.

To put this in perspective we have to go back not to September 11th, but to
 last year or further.

A man of limited intelligence, George W. Bush, with nothing more than his
 name and the behind-the-scenes pressure of his powerful father-a former
President, ex-director of Central Intelligence, and an oil man-is systematically
constructed as a candidate, at tremendous cost. Across the country, subtle and
not-so-subtle mechanisms are put into place to disfranchise a significant fraction of the Democrat's African-American voter base.

This doesn't come out until Florida becomes a battleground for Electoral College votes, and the magnitude of the story has been suppressed by the corporate media to this day. In a decision so lacking in legitimacy, the Supreme Court will neither by-line the author of the decision nor allow
the decision to ever be used as a precedent, Bush v. Gore awards the presidency of the United States to a man who loses the popular vote in Florida and loses the national popular vote by over 600,000.

This de facto regime then organizes a very interesting cabinet. The Vice
President is an oil executive and the former Secretary of Defense. The
National Security Advisor is a director on the board of a transnational
oil corporation and a Russia scholar. The Secretary of State is a man
with no diplomatic experience whatsoever, and the former Chair of the
 Joint Chiefs of Staff. The other interesting appointment is Donald
 Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld is the former CEO of
Searle Pharmaceuticals.

He and Cheney were featured as speakers at the May, 2000, Russian- American Business Leaders Forum. So the consistent currents in this cabinet are petroleum, the former Soviet Union, and the military.

Based on the record of Daddy Bush, in all his guises, and the general trajectory of US foreign policy
as far back as the Carter Administration, I feel I can reasonably conclude that Middle Eastern and South Asian fossil fuels are one of their major preoccupations. Not just because this klavern has some very direct financial interests in fossil fuel, but because they surely know that worldwide oil production is peaking as we speak, and will soon begin a permanent and precipitous decline that will completely change the character of civilization as we know it within 20 years.

Even the left seems to be in deep denial about this, but the math is available.
And, no, alternative energies and energy technologies wil not save us. All the alternatives in the world can not begin to provide more than a tiny fraction of
 the energy base now provided by oil.

This makes it more than a resource, and the drive to control what's left more than an economic competition.

I further conclude that the economic colonization of the former Soviet Union is probably high on that agenda, and in fact has a powerful synergy with the issue of petroleum. Russia not only holds vast untapped resources that beckon  to imperialism in crisis, it remains a credible military and nuclear challenger in the region.
We have not one, but three members of the Bush de facto cabinet with military credentials, which makes the cabinet look quite a lot like a military General  Staff. All this way before September 11th.
Then there's the subject of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. NATO might have expected consignment to the dustbin of the Cold War after the Eastern Bloc shattered in 1991. Peace dividend and all that. But it didn't.

It expanded directly into the former states of the Eastern Bloc toward the former Soviet Union,and contributed significant forces to the devastation of Iraq-a key country in the world oil market, over which control translates into the ability to manipulate oil prices.

NATO is a military formation, and the United States exerts the controlling  interest in it. It seemed like a form without a function, but it remedied that pretty quickly.

Then when Yugoslavia refused to play ball with the International Monetary  Fund, the US and Germany  began a systematic campaign of destabilization there, even using some of the veterans of Afghanistan in that campaign.

NATO became the military arm of that agenda-the break-up of Yugoslavia into compliant statelets, the further containment of the former Soviet Union,and  the future pipeline easement for Caspain Sea oil to Western European markets through Kosovo.

You see, this is important to understand, and people-even those against the war talk-are tending to overlook the significance of it. NATO is not a guarantor of international law, and it is not a humanitarian organization. It  is a military alliance with one very dominant partner. And it can no longer claim to be a defensive alliance against European socialists. It is an instrument of military aggression.

      NATO is the organization that is now going to thrust further along the 40th parallel from the Balkans through the Southern Asian Republics of the former  Soviet Union. The US military has already taken control of a base in Uzbekistan. No one is talking about how what we are doing seems to be a very logical extension of a strategy that was already in motion, and has beenin motion for two decades. Once we recognize the pattern of activity designed to simultaneously consolidate control over Middle Eastern and South Asian oil, and contain and colonize the former Soviet Union, Afghanistan is exactly
 where they need to go to pursue that  agenda.

Afghanistan borders Iran, India, and even China but, more importantly,the Central Asian Republics of the former Soviet Union, Uzbekistan,Turkmenistan and Tajikistan. These border Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan borders Russia.  Turkmenistan sits on the Southeastern quadrant of the Caspian Sea, whose oil the Bush Administration dearly covets. Afghanistan is necessary for two  things: as a base of operations to begin the process of destabilizing, breaking off, and establishing control over the South Asian Republics,which will begin within the next 18-24 months in my opinion, and constructing a pipeline through Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to deliver petroleum to the Asian market.


The BBC was recently told by Niaz Naik, a Pakistani Foreign Secretary, that senior American officials were warning them as early as mid-July that  military action for mid-October was being planned for Afghanistan.

 In 1996,the Department of Energy was issuing reports on the desirability of a pipeline through Afghanistan, and  in 1998, Unocal testified before the House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific that this pipeline was crucial to transport Caspian Basin oil to the Indian Ocean.

Given this evidence that a military operation to secure at least a portion of Afghanistan has been on the table, possibly as early as five years ago,I can't help but conclude that the actions we are seeing put into motion now are part of a pre-September 11th agenda.

I'm absolutelysure of that, in fact. The planning alone for operations, of this scale,that are now taking shape, would take many months. And we are seeing them take shape in mere weeks.

It defies common sense. This administration is lying about this whole thing  being a "reaction"
 to September 11th. That leads me, in short order, to be very suspicious of their yet-to-be-provided evidence that someone in  Afghanistan is responsible. It's just too damn convenient. Which also leads me to wonder-just for the sake of knowing-what actually did happen on September 11th, and who actually is responsible.


The so-called evidence is a farce. The US presented Tony Blair's puppet government with the evidence, and of the 70 so-called points of evidence, only nine even referred to the attacks on the World Trade Center, and those points were conjectural. This is a bullshit story from beginning to end.  

Presented with the available facts, any 16-year old with a liking for  courtroom dramas could tear this story apart like a two-dollar shirt.

But our corporate press regurgitates it uncritically.

But then, as we should know by now, their role is to legitimize.
This cartoon heavy they've turned bin Laden into makes no sense, when you begin to appreciate
the complexity and synchronicity of the attacks.


As a former military person who's been involved in the development of countless operations orders over the years, I can tell you that this wasa very sophisticated and costly enterprise that would have left what we call a huge "signature".

In other words, it would be very hard to effectively conceal.

So there's a real question about why there was no warning of this.

That can be a question about the efficacy of the government's intelligence apparatus. That can be a question about various policies in the various agencies that had to be duped to orchestrate this action.

And it can also be a question about whether or not there was foreknowledge of the event, and that foreknowledge is being covered up. To dismiss this concern out of hand as the rantings of conspiracy nuts is premature. And there is a history of this kind of thing being done by national political bosses, including the darling of liberals,  Franklin Roosevelt.

The evidence is very compelling that the Roosevelt Administration deliberately failed to act to stop Pearl Harbor in order to mobilize enough national anger to enter the World War II.

I have no idea why people aren't asking some very specific questions about the actions of Bush and company on the day of the attacks. Follow along: Four planes get hijacked  and deviate from their flight plans, all the while on FAA radar.

The planes are all hijacked between 7:45 and 8:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time .

 Who is notified?
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This is an event already that is unprecedented. But the President is not notified and going to a Florida elementary school to hear children read.

By around 8:15 AM, it should be very apparent that something is terribly wrong. The President is glad-handing teachers.

By 8:45, when American Airlines Flight 11 crashes into the World Trade Center, Bush is settling in with children for his photo ops at Booker Elementary. Four planes have obviously been hijacked simultaneously, an event never before seen in history, and one has just dived into the worlds best know twin towers, and still no one notifies the nominal Commander in Chief.

No one has apparently scrambled any Air Force interceptors either.

At 9:03, United Flight 175 crashes into the remaining World Trade Center building. At 9:05, Andrew Card, the Presidential Chief of Staff whispers to George W. Bush. Bush "briefly turns somber" according to reporters.

Does he cancel the school visit and convene an emergency meeting?
No.

He resumes listening to second graders read about a little girl's pet fucking goat, and continues this banality even as American Airlines Flight 77 conducts an unscheduled point turn over Ohio and heads in the direction of Washington DC.

Has he instructed Chief of Staff Card to scramble the Air Force? No.

An excruciating 25 minutes later, he finally deigns to give a public statement telling the United States what they already have figured out; that there's been an attack by hijacked planes on the World Trade Center.

There's a hijacked plane bee-lining to Washington, but has the Air Force been scrambled to defend anything yet?  No.

     At 9:30, when he makes his announcement,
     American Flight 77 is still ten minutes from
     its target, the Pentagon.

The Administration will later claim they had no way of knowing that the Pentagon might be a target, and that they thought Flight 77 was headed to the White House, but the fact is that the plane has already flown South and past the White House no-fly zone, and is in fact tearing through the sky at over 400 nauts.

At 9:35, this plane conducts another turn, 360 degrees over the Pentagon, all the while being tracked by radar, and the Pentagon is not evacuated, and there are still no fast-movers from the Air Force in the sky over Alexandria and DC.

Now, the real kicker. A pilot they want us to believe was trained at a Florida puddle-jumper school for Piper Cubs and Cessnas, conducts a well-controlled downward spiral, descending the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a - half minutes, brings the plane in so low and flat that it clips the electrical wires across the street from the Pentagon, and flies it with pinpoint accuracy into the side of this building at 460 nauts.

When the theory about learning to fly this well at the puddle-jumper school began to lose ground, it was added that they received further training on a flight simulator.

 This is like saying you prepared your teenager for her first drive on I- 40 at rush hour by
 buying her a video driving game. It's horse shit!

There is a story being constructed about these events. My crystal ball is not working today,
 so I can't say why.  But at the least, this so-called Commander-in-Chief and his staff that
we are all supposed to follow blindly into some ill-defined war on terrorism is criminally
negligent or unspeakably stupid. And at the worst, if more is known or was known, and
there is an effort to conceal the facts, there is a criminal conspiracy going on.

Certainly, the Bush de facto administration was facing a confluence of crises from which they were temporarily rescued by this event. Whether they played a sinister role or not, there is little doubt that they have at the very least opportunistically pounced on this attack to overcome their lack of legitimacy, to shift the blame for the encroaching recession from capitalism to the September 11th terror attack, to legitimize their pre-existing foreign policy agenda, and to establish and consolidate repressive measures domestically and silence dissent.

 In many ways, September 11th pulled the Bush cookies out of the fire.

And given them the green light to begin constructing a long-term scenario within which to establish fascistic control measures at home and abroad as a citadel for the ruling class in the catastrophic conjuncture that we are entering based on the end of oil.

This elephant in the living room is being studiously ignored.

In fact,the domestic repression has already begun, officially and unofficially. It's kind of a latter day McCarthyism.

I participated in a teach-in at Chapel Hill, North Carolina, on the
17th of September, and though not a single person on the panel excused or justified the attacks, and every person there offered either condolences and prayers for the victims, we were excoriated within two days as "enemies of America."

Yesterday an op-ed called for my deportation  
(to where, one can only guess) . Now Herr Ashcroft is fast tracking the biggest abrogation of US civil liberties since the so-called anti-terrorism legislation after the Oklahoma City bombing-which by the way hasn't
resulted in anti-terrorism but in the acceleration of the application of the racist death penalty.The FBI has defined terrorist groups not by whether any given group has ever acted
as terrorists, but by their beliefs.

Some socialists and! ! anti-globalization groups
 have already been identified by name as terrorist groups, even though there is not a single shred of evidence that they have ever participated in any
criminal activity.

 It reminds me of the Smith Act that was finally declared unconstitutional, but only after a hell of
a lot of people served a hell of a long time in jail
 for the crime of thinking.

I think this also points to yet another huge problems that the Bush regime was facing. Worldwide resistance to the whole so-called neoliberal agenda, which is a prettied up term for debt-leverage imperialism. While debt and the threat of sanctions has been used to coerce nations in the periphery, we have to understand that the final guarantor of compliance remains military action.

For a global economic agenda, there is always a corresponding political and military agenda.

The focal point of these actions in the short term is Southern Asia, but they have already scripted this as a worldwide and protracted fight against terrorism. It's far better than drug wars as a rationalization, and the drug
war thing was being discredited in any case. Leftists are regaining power
and popularity in Venezuela,El Salvador, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Colombia,
 the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Brazil, and Argentina.

Cuba has gained immense prestige over the last few years. The empire is beginning to unravel. We can hardly justify intervention in these places by  saying they are not towing the economic line by allowing the absolute domination of their societies by transnational corporations. That exposes the agenda. So we simply claim they are supporting terrorism.

It's for all these reasons I say the left has missed the boat on this one, by allowing them to get away with rushing past the question of who did what on September 11th.  If the official story is a lie, and I think the circumstantial case is strong enough to stay with this question, then we really do need to know what happened. And we need to understand concretely what the motives of this administration are.

And we need to understand more than just their immediate motives, but where the larger social forces that underwrite our situation right now are headed. I do not think this administration is engaged in the deliberative process of a political grouping that is on top of their game. They are putting together  some very deliberative technical solutions in response to a larger situation that it slipping rapidly out of their control. Like clear cutting.

There's a very smart technology being employed to do a very dumb thing.What they are responding to is not September 11th, but the beginning of a  permanent and precipitous decline in worldwide oil production, the beginning of a deep and protracted worldwide recession, and the unraveling of the
empire.

This brings me to a point about what all this means for Americans' security,  which they are perfectly justified to worry about. The actions being prepared by this administration will not only not enhance our security, it will significantly degrade it. Military action against many groups across the  globe, which is what the administration is telling us quite openly they are planning to do, will put a lot of backs against the wall.
That can't be very secure.

The concept of war being touted here is a violation of the principles of war on several counts, and will inevitably lead to military catastrophes, if you're inclined to view this from a position of moral and political neutrality.

And the people who are now in possession of half the world's remaining oil reserves are subject to destabilization for which we can't even pretend to predict the consequences-but loss of access to critical energy supplies is certainly within the realm of possibility. Worst of all, we will be destabilizing Pakistan, a nuclear power in an active conflict with its neighbor, and we will be provoking Russia, another nuclear power. The security stakes don't get any higher, and Americans can ill afford to ignore nukes.

And I think that this domestic agenda is a tremendous threat to the security of anyone who is critical of the government or their corporate financiers, and we already know that the real threats are against populations that can  easily be scapegoated as the domestic crisis deepens. There is a very real  threat right now of creeping fascism in this country, and that phenomenon requires its domestic enemies. Historically those enemies have included leftists, trade unionists, and racially and nationally oppressed sectors.

This whole "state of emergency" mentality is already being used to quiet the public discourses of anti-racism, of feminism, of environmentalism, and of both socialism and anarchism. And while there is token resistance by officials to anti-Muslim xenophobia, the stereotypical images have saturated the media, and the government is already beginning to openly re-instate racial profiling. It is only a short step from there to go after other groups. We have long been prepared by the ideologies of overt and covert racism, and racism as both institution and corresponding psychology in the United States is nearly  intractable.

It's for all these reason, I say emphatically that we can not acceptanything from this administration; not their policies nor their bullshit stories.

What they are doing is very, very dangerous, and the time to fight back against them, openly, is right now,before they can consolidate their power and their agenda. Once they have done that, our job becomes much more difficult.

The left, if it has the capacity to self-organize out of its oblivion, needs to understand its critical roles here. We have to play the role of credible, hard-working, and non-sectarian partners in a broader peace-movement. We have to study, synthesize, and describe our current historical conjuncture.

And we have to prepare leadership for the decisive conflict that will emerge to first defeat fascism then take political power.

Rosa Luxemburg's words are truer than ever right now. We are not faced with a choice between socialism and capitalism, but socialism or barbarism. And what we can least afford are denial and timidity.

Stan Goff

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Subject: LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN
 Dear Friends,
 The following was sent to me by my friend Tamim Ansary. Tamim is an
 Afghani-American writer. He is also one of the most brilliant people I
know in this life. When he writes, I read. When he talks, I listen. Here
is his take on Afghanistan and the whole mess we are in.G
...............

Dear Friends and Neighbors( and whoever else is on this email thread: )

I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ronn Owens,
on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage.
What else can we do?"

  Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the belly to do what must be done."  And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's going on there.
 So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.

I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no
doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in
New York. I agree that something must be done about those monsters.
But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the
government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics
who took over Afghanistan in 1997.

Bin Laden is a political criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban,think Nazis. When you think
Bin Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan"think "the Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there, take
out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country.

Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food.
There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets.

These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban.
We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age.
Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already.

Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses?
Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done.
 Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care? Too late.
Someone already did all that. New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs.

 Would they at least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan,only the Taliban eat, only
 they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide. Maybe the bombs would get
some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs.
 But flying over Kabul and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who
did this horrific thing.

Actually it would only be making common cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the
people they've been raping all this time.

So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and trembling.
The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When people speak of "having
the belly to do what needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many
as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people.

Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigge than that folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first.

Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West.

And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west.
It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got
a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view.

He's probably wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the
war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours.
Who has the belly for that?

Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

 Tamim Ansary


                       
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           of Adolph Hitler Schicklgruber

 The following are some  of the other e-mails I have received


 #1
Forward :
This is something I wrote. If you think it's good, please copy and send it around.
DJ

-------------------------------
Check this out:
We pick up bin Laden and keep him ALIVE Before you flame me, hear me out:

One thing Americans don't understand is that these losers DON'T CARE if they die. In fact, they WANT to -- they
believe there are divine prostitutes waiting for them in heaven if they kill infidels (this is true - I did not make it up).
  But if we were to lock up Osama for the rest of his life, he would be like Rudolf Hess, the ex-Nazi who was only
prisoner in the jail, until he died in his 90's. Think about it -- if we kill bin Laden, we all know there will be some
other yahoo next in line who is horny for a heavenly babe.
On the other hand, if he lock him up for life, he would be like Sirhan Sirhan (another bloodthirsty Muslim, who killed
Robert Kennedy for his support of Israel). He is now in his 50's, and every few years he goes before the parole
board to say "I'm really sorry -- PLEASE let me out," and they always say no, when you were sentenced to "life in
prison," that was for real; you are never leaving here alive . Even after he's dead, they might bury him on prison
grounds.
  Now imagine bin Laden in that position. Kind of sounds good, doesn't it? It will blow his mind when he realizes his
fate; that he is doomed to an empty life in a box-like cell (remember, this is a man who's been a nomad for much of
his life). No followers, no company, no celestial booty.   
He will learn that A CIVILIZED COUNTRY DOESN'T HAVE TO MURDER TO MAKE ITS POINT.
  I know all the Christians will support me, because they worship the Prince of Peace, who said the most important
thing is love.
DON'T LET OSAMA BECOME A MARTYR FOR HIS FAITH. Force him to live a long, lonely life of shame.
Very few will  want to follow in those footsteps.

 # 2
This came to me stating :
A friend & neighbor of my brother, Liz G., who is a writer, sent this
letter to him:
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:01 AM
Subject: Letter from New York City
Dear Ones -
It's the middle of the night here in New York, a city which doesn't generally sleep even under the best
of circumstances and which is certainly lying awake tonight. I have walked and ridden my bike around
 the city today.
I have seen both rivers, which are still there. I have seen the hollow mushroom cloud where the longest
 arms of my city's beautiful skyline once reached to the clouds. I have seen the stunned crowds on the
 streets at 10:30 AM and the erie emptiness at 10:30 PM. The city is quiet now except for the sirens
from the tireless emergency vehicles. But the city is still here. That's primarily what I want to tell you
tonight. We are still here
--
horrified and stunned and shaken -- but still here.

I've been thinking today about a joke I heard a New York comic deliver years ago, after the first
World Trade Center bombing. He said, "These terrorist tried to blow up the World Trade Center
 beacuse they wanted to send a shock wave through New Yorkers. Hell, that's not how to send a
 shock wave through New Yorkers -- we walk around expecting stuff like that to happen half time
 anyhow. If you really wanna send a shock wave through New Yorkers, come to our city in the
 middle of the night and finish up all the construction work on the Queensborough Bridge -- that'll
shock us, for real." Gallows humor, yes, but there is something to it. Namely, that even in the
 midst of this unspeakable tragedy, New Yorkers still insist on being...New Yorkers. An endless
crowd of busy, bossy, thoroughly engaged, sarcastic but somehow holy wisecrakers. Which means
that the life force does not stop, refuses to stop,cannot stop. The homeless are still out there tonight,
picking up spent cigarettes off the street and jonesing for a cup of coffee. The subways and busses
have inched back to life. Young recruits from the Police Academy -- dressed in their grey almost-cop
 uniforms --  stand in every intersection, keeping traffic organized and reminding the dazed civilians who
sometimes simply stop moving in the crosswalks that the laws of gravity and physics don't stop just because
of an appalling act of terrorism, so move it along, people. Storefronts are closed everywhere, but not universally --
 there seems to be one deli and one pizza joint open on every block, and these places have become shelters
and churches, where people come to find both food and comfort. The real churches are still open, too. I met a
doorman from Queens tonight who had been guarding his building since 7AM.

 It was almost midnight, and he was bleary-eyed and weary and nobody was coming in to take his post, but
he refused to abandon his building. "Seventy-six apartments in there," he said, gesturing behind him. "I'm not
letting down my guard. No van or truck is parking in front of this building tonight, I'll tell you that. I don't care if I
have to go after someone with a baseball  bat -- nobody's messin' with this building." I felt safer somehow knowing
that this one piece of New York was in his hands.

A man on his cellphone, complaining to a friend as he walked down the street, gave those around him the first
 smile of the day with this line:"Damn! Last week my wife was tryin' to kill me, now the A-rabs are tryin' to get me.
" He seemed equally unthreatened by both. And here's the oddly most comforting assurance that business continues
 as usual in New York tonight.

I locked my bike up to a parking sign for an hour this evening and came back to find that someone had stolen my
back tire. See? See how we ALL -- even the pettiest little theives among us -- insist on perservering, even in the face
 of tragedy? I swear, I found inspiration in even that. The city cannot shut down, you see, anymore than life itself can
 shut down. As long as we live, we move. And that movement is our deepest salvation and greatest healing.

I went to give blood today at Bellview hospital and found they had more volunteers than they needed. A line of people
 four-deep wrapped around the block. It was the same thing at every hospital in the city. Crowds of people of every age
 and nationality patiently waiting for the chance to give up their very blood to help save lives. The radio in the pizza place
tonight said there were too many people down at the site of the collapse -- every volunteer fireman within 100 miles, all
trying to help. They are turning people away, but we still show up because we want to help. We are all trying to help. I \
passed a massive triage center today that had been set up on the Hudson River. A vast assemblage of ambulances
were lined up outside, still and waiting, and there were medical personal everywhere. But only medical personal. Nobody
in need of treatment was to be seen anywhere. A young doctor with tired eyes told me, "There are hundreds of doctors here, but no patients. We've been here all day, ready to help, but they just aren't finding survivors down there. Everybody's gone. All gone."

Gone, but not completely vanished. The mushroom cloud that covers the southern tip of my city? That's where all the people are. The countless thousands of them. Their lives and their souls and their dreams are hovering above us in a white cloud of dust, which was very difficult to distinguish this afternoon from all the other fluffy white clouds in the beautiful blue sky. Exactly the same color, exactly the same shape. Just a little bigger and a little closer to earth than
 the other clouds. A little closer to us.
There has been a gentle southward breeze all day, taking it all out to sea.The air smelled like autumn tonight for the
first time.

It is late now, almost dawn, and I should go to sleep. I don't know what more I can do tonight except what I have done
 all day -- continue to believe in God, continue to believe in New York City and to steadfastly refuse to hate. Something unthinkable has happened here to our humanity, but all I saw on the streets today was calm, compassion, perserverance and resolve. What I will try to remember most from September 11, 2001 is this moment. I was in line to give blood. Someone from the hospital came out and made a loud request that anyone with O-positive or O-negative blood would please step forward. "We need your blood," said the nurse. "We need you." The message shot back through the crowd and the masses stirred and from within the ranks of us emerged these universal donors. One at a time they pushed forward -- a young black man, a professional-looking Asian woman, an old man in a yarmulke, some hispanic students,
a city bus driver, etc. With reverance, we all parted to let them pass. They seemed for that moment to be the most
important people in New York City. They shared nothing in common with one another except the same blood. A blood that can save any life because it does not discriminate. A universal blood. What runs through their veins is our best
and only hope. God bless them.

Please pray for peace.

I love you all,

Liz


 # 3
 Editors Note : Generally I don't forward any Nasteadumus Carppola ( its really a grate steaming
heap of BS in any version or "translation" ) yet  beside the asinine nature akin to astrology and
 the Patented Real TV Psychic or the Miz. Cleo Grotesque Bombast and the simple minded nature
 that attempts of explain the randomness of fate it will be a brief  distraction from the day's pain
and stench of burned human flesh  ...

o: henry
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:15 PM

Henry, I found this. YS
Peter Lemesurier, who wrote the authoritative book
       Nostradamus In The 21st Century (Piatkus Books),
       is furious about the twisting of the words of the
       celebrated French mystic. He says: "It's a disgrace.
       It always happens when people want Nostradamus
       to have predicted the latest event; they either take a
       quatrain from a corrupt edition of his work or a bad
       translation or invent a new verse entirely of their
       own."
       However, two of Nostradamus’s verses do have an
       air of prophecy about them
       Latitude 45 the skies afire:
       to greater villeneuve shall the fire draw nigh.
       With vehemence the flames shall spread yet higher
       when with the North conclusions they shall try.
       (VI.97)
       Garden of the world near the new city
       on the road to the hollowed out mountain,
       he shall be seized and plunged in the vat,
       forced to drink sulphurous poisonous waters. (X:49)

 # 4
Forward: Subject: an invitation with a message
   Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:00:10 -0400
   From: James <xjam212@netscape.net>
    To:  undisclosed-recipients:;  Dear Friends,

Initially after Tuesday's events I realized that I might have to cancel
the exhibition and reception that I've been planning for months now.
 The date was set for September 22nd.
I will not postpone or cancel.
My reason is this! Terrorism is meant to destroy the basic sense of
normalicy. It tries to disrupt. It wants to make us feel weak, scared.
Many of you may not know this, the first time they bombed The Towers
there was a secondary device. It was a cyanide canister that was set to
go off several minutes after the initial blast. The purpose was to make
a horrible scene more frightening. They wanted news choppers to show
us those who make us safe (rescue workers) falling dead as they arrived.
It was placed too close to the main explosive and so failed - being burnt
up in the heat of that initial blast.

This time they did accomplish the murder of Police, Firefighters, and
Medics as well as thousands of New Yorkers. I believe that there is not
a person who feels a tremendous personal effect by this action. I am as
outraged as every freedom loving citizen is. As many of you know I am
myself a New York City Firefighter as well as an artist, and I have lost
friends. Make no mistake, my choice to have this exhibition on the date
planned is out of a strong convition.

As of now each of us, I believe can resist their goals, by going to
work, by seeing friends, going to the gym, by doing what we would
normally be doing as much as possible. If we show that they haven't been
able to affect us as much as they want, then their power over us is
diminished. I hope we can show them that we are not broken, we will not
bend to their attempt to frighten us out of our way of life. Continuing
with normality as a symbol of defiance isn't the same thing as ignoring
or denying the tragedy. We cannot let the terrorists have our hearts,
souls, and dreams.
I will stop now and invite you to an exhibition of my artwork.
The Date: September 22, 2001
The Time: 5pm - 9pm
46-44 11th Street,
Long Island City,
NY 11101
1.718.937.3080

 #5
Forward:
Subject:  A chance to share your thoughts
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:40:56 EDT
From: Eartheater2000@aol.com
To:undisclosed-recipients:;

Three days have passed since the attack that destroyed the World Trade Center
and damaged the Pentagon.  I feel shocked by the attack, and deeply saddened
about the lives that have been taken or ruined.  It has been an emotional
rollercoaster.

I’ve decided that there is one small thing I want to do to help.  I would
like to invite anyone so inclined to write a letter to Ghent magazine about
their experiences during the attack and its aftermath.  Where you were when
the first plane hit? How did you find out about it? Where did you go?  What
did you see?  Who did you talk to?  How did you feel?  What are your thoughts
about the attack in general, its roots, the media coverage and the impact of
that coverage, and where you think we go from here as a city and as a country?

If you have already written on these topics — e-mails, for example — to
friends or relatives, feel free to forward those e-mails to Ghent.  You can
e-mail them to eartheater2000@aol.com.  Feel free to forward this e-mail.  

Why solicit these e-mails or letters?

Two reasons:  

1) A disaster like this can generate a mix of emotions; shock, grief, anger
in turn or simultaneously.  Writing is a useful way to sort through these
feelings.

2) The more space there is in the public sphere for people to describe their
experiences and feelings, the better.  

Not all submissions will be published, but at the very least they will be
read and responded to.

I hope this e-mail finds you all in good health, and I hope this is the worst
disaster any of us will ever experience.
Sincerely,
Stephen Kosloff Editor
Ghent Magazine

 # 6
Forward :
Part 2
>Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: Lift your spirits America
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> I would just like to give some additional information about the Canadian editorial that you
recently received. I think the background story on this is quite interesting and that it is important to
provide historical context for some of the statements in the speech (draft-dodging, etc...). Also,
knowing the full context of the speech shows that pro- and anti-American sentiments in the world
have developed over many, many years.
>According to the Canadian Communications Foundation: On June 5, 1973, Canadian radio
commentator Gordon Sinclair decided he'd had enough of the unrelenting criticism directed against
the United States from seemingly all quarters -- primarily foreign journalists.
>
>Most of the bad press centered on America's involvement in Vietnam, recently ended by the Paris
Peace Accords. The war's end had resulted in a worldwide sell-off of American investments,
share prices tumbled, the US economy was in trouble. At home and abroad, it seemed everyone
was lambasting the United States.
>
>But Sinclair wasn't going to put up with the vitriol any longer.
>Arriving at the studios of Toronto radio station CFRB that morning, he took 20 minutes to dash off
 a two-page editorial which he delivered in a defiant, indignant tone during his regular 11:45 AM
 broadcast.
"The Americans" was originally broadcast
June 5, 1973.
>
>It was made into a record with all proceeds to go to the American Red Cross. (An unauthorized
record by another broadcaster was made first, but legal action on copyright infringement was
stopped when proceeds from that record were also donated to the ARC.)
>
>The speech and its recorded version received a great deal of publicity and was even read into the
US Congressional Record twice. On Reagan's first official visit to Canada, he praised the journalist
and the Prime Minister invited Sinclair to a reception to meet the President. The President told him
that he had a copy of the record of THE AMERICANS at his California ranch home when he was
governor of the state, and played it from time to time when things looked gloomy.
>
>
>Mr. Sinclair was born in 1900 and died in 1984.
> >Susan Bender Phelps
Part 2


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 # 8
 Original Message ---- From: kalonamac Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:26 PM To:
Subject: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES Following is an editorial .... Keep it going. Subject:
 A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. Widespread, but only partial news coverage
 was given recently to aremarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
 television commentator.

What follows is the full  text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:America:
The Good Neighbor. "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up  for the Americans as the most generous
 and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

 Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
 Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts.
None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,it was the Americans who propped it up
and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris.
 When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help.
This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
 The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries.
Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
  I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the
 United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have
 a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, theLockheed Tri-Star or the Douglas DC10?
 If so, why don't they fly them?
Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
 Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the
 moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk
 about German technocracy and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon --
not once, but several times - and safely home again.

You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window
 for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.

 They are here on our streets and most of them, unless they are breaking
Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend

 here.
 When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age,
 it was the Americans who rebuilt them.

When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody
loaned them an old caboose.

 Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
 people in trouble.

Can you name me even one time when someone else raced tothe Americans in trouble?
 I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

 Our neighbors have faced it alone and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired
 of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high.

And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over
 their present troubles.

I hope Canada is not one of those." "Stand proud, America!"
 This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the United States.

It is nice that at least one man realizes it.
 I only wish that the rest of the world would realize it.

We are always blamed for everything and never even get a thank you for the things we do.
 I would hope that each of you would send this to as many people as you can and
emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends as theycan until this letter
 is sent to every person on the web. I am just a singleAmerican that has read this.

I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE READ IT SOON.

 # 9
Forward:
Subject: - fyi, only / stuff on Afghanistan -
   Date:  Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:40:39 -0400
  From:  Lee   To: Lee
Dear friends, here's some information you may find useful if you're
interested in Afghanistan.
 This is merely stuff that catches my attention; please feel free to dump  delete.


Fellow I know spends half his time in North America and the Pacific, and
most of every summer in Afghanistan.  Over the many years, he's become a
close friend of Ahmed Shah Massood, the competent and gravely outgunned
military commander who's mounted the only serious armed opposition to the
Taliban.

You may know that his Northern Coalition has been hemmed in for some time
in northeastern Afghanistan, recently being in danger of obliteration.  The
group has some concourse with Tajikistan, which is substantially under
Russian control militarily.  For a nutshell history of some of this,
mentioning that parts (not all) of the Pakistani government -- using US aid
-- sent planes to the fledgling Taliban to provide what the New York Times
at that time wrote, deadpan and absent any responsible explanation, was the
"Taliban air force," I'm brazen enough to send you a copy of part of a
little speech I gave back in December 1996.

     "To bring you up to the moment, a big southern section of Afghanistan
is now under the control of a reactionary Pashtoon militia named 'Taliban'.
If you've wondered how a band of Quranic devotees and mountain villagers
managed to acquire an entire air force, look no farther than the Ministry
of the Interior of Pakistan -- with the help of funds from the multilateral
lending institutions that our tax dollars substantially support.

     "U.S. policy is geared to preserving U.S. interests in the region, and
from Washington's point of view, there are two central issues militating in
favor of continued havoc there: -- the mess in Afghanistan keeps Iran
 nervous and busy;
     -- and Unocal, with Delta Oil of Saudi Arabia, wants to build a $10
Billion natural gas pipeline from Turkmenistan, through Afghanistan, to
Pakistan and, thence, the world economy."


By the way, as you're probably aware, Pakistan is still the primary support
of the Taliban, sending it fuel, food, and water (critical in a time of
drought).

(Further, according to an article by an English journalist, published in
the Herald Tribune in the 1980s,  Pakistan has long derived a substantial
percentage of its foreign exchange from the sale of heroin to the US.  If
that's so, it was probably distributed via the village of Land-i-Kotl just
on the Pakistani side of the Khyber Pass  The "brown sugar" was said to
leave Pakistan on TWA.  Simultaneously, Pakistan in 1984 was buying fissile
material from the United States, evidently using forex from this income
stream.)

On last Sunday night, I heard a midnight BBC broadcast saying that
 Massood may have been killed.  Next day, a report came through that two
photographers with very high-tech cameras had been doing a story on
Massood, but the cameras were actually bombs and blew everyone up.

After a certain amount of fruitless research, I called both Gary, the
intrepid traveller, and a suitably-placed source in Washington.  Washington
genuinely was not sure if Mahsood was alive or dead.  (Late news: "He is
alive and under treatment.")

It is to the Northern Alliance that someone in State has recently
attributed the missile attacks on Kabul that we saw on CNN.
 My own thought is that the accuracy of their aim, what I think used to
 be called the Circular Error Probability, is a little high for a bunch of now-raggedy
soldiers surrounded by enemy forces in a territory where the civilians are
apparently in danger of starving to death.  Since those missiles perfectly
hit a munitions storage in southeastern Kabul, I wonder if they might not
have flown out of, say, Israel?  I'd be glad to learn your views.

Meanwhile, here's the text of Gary's reply to me.
 If nothing else, you can go to  http://www.geovision.com/,
 Inc-Afghan Connection and see a handsome slideshow
on remote areas of Afghanistan.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Lee:
Thanks for the e-mail and the concern!  I'm OK in Oak Ridge, TN.
 I just returned from a 2,500-mile trip by vehicle, horse and hiking across
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

See photo at  GeoVision, Inc-Afghan Connection  Click Slide Show and then
I reached the Kuh-i-Lal spinel mines in Tajikistan and guided the film crew
around Pakistan and Afghanistan These are bad times! Last Thursday,
September 6th, I spent an hour at the State Department asking them to work
 directly with Commander Massoud and warning them of serious future Wahabi
 problems including a desire for a territorial base (Afghanistan).
I had no idea that Commander Massoud would be seriously wounded and
Engineer Assim would be killed by a terrorist bomb last Sunday nor the USA
attacked today. It was only three weeks ago that I sat  talking with both
of them in Khawja Bahauddin, Afghanistan where the bomb went off.

May there be better days ahead!

Sincerely,  Gary

 # 10
NYC is not IWO JIMA JAPAN why mimic the

heart string with this all white $nap $hot?
[09/17/2001 6:13:49 PM]?Among the many extraordinary efforts put forth by the media on the morning of September 11, 2001,
 The Record responded with its outstanding photos, a Tuesday Extra afternoon edition, expanded editorial coverage in regular
editions, &  the immediate establishment of a local disaster relief fund. These efforts have come to be symbolized by a photo
 of three firefighters raising the American flag amidst the rubble of the World Trade Center, taken by Thomas E. Franklin, a
photographer at The Record.The photo originally ran in The Record on Wednesday, September12.  It immediately drew national
 attention and re-ran on Thursday,September 13 with an explanation from Franklin of how he captured the extraordinary shot.
Depicted in the photo are Brooklyn-based firefighters Dan McWilliams of Long Island and George Johnson of Rockaway Beach, both from Ladder 157, and Billy Eisengrein of Staten Island from Rescue 2. This photo has now been seen around  the world.
It has been used on the front pages of newspapers including the New York Post,Baltimore Sun, and Providence Journal
 (Rhode Island), and hasbeen shown on network television.

Neither the photographer nor the firefighters knew initially that their combined instincts would grow into a nationa
l symbol of patriotism.

[WHAT PATRIOTISM ??
WHAT BULL! THIS BUTTON PUSHING  PIX PRETENDS
IT'S NOT PROPAGANDA .
THE ORIGINAL PHOTO MADE A MOCK ATTEMPT AT
THE HOPE FORE RACIAL UNITY AT HOME.
AFTER A LONG AND BLOODY BATTLE.

 THE ABOVE COPY CAT SNAP SHOT FAILS IN EVERY
 WAY TO BE TRUE.

TO THE  FALSE PROMISE OF THE FIRST ONE MADE IN
JAPAN USING A NATIVE AMERICAN IRA HAYES ETC...]

 Ira was a dedicated Marine. Quiet and steady, he was admired by his fellow Marines who fought
alongside him in three Pacific battles.
When Ira learned that President Roosevelt wanted him and the other survivors to come back to the US to raise money on the 7th Bond Tour, he was horrified. To Ira, the heroes of Iwo Jima, those deserving honor, were his "good buddies" who died there.

At the White House, President Truman told Ira, "You are an American hero." But Ira didn't feel pride.
As he later lamented, "How could I feel like a hero when only five men in my platoon of 45 survived,
 when only 27 men in my company of 250 managed to escape death or injury?"
©2001 The Record (Bergen County,N.J.)Photo Credit: Thomas E. Franklin, Staff  Photographer. Photo taken  
September 11th, 2001 at the World Trade Center and published in The Record on September 12th, 2001


 # 11
Forward :
To: My Net Colleagues.Fr: Idyllium Re: A Time To Ponder.


We've seen the enemy, and, sadly,  the enemy is ourselves. Deeply rooted in a  myopia that blurs
our vision and prevents us from finding the profound answers we  so desperately need, we whip
out the band aid - the bigger gun, the impressive muscle, the more intimidating set of vocals; the
stronger set of testicles - and then we proceed to hide behind them, exposing our inertia and
ineptitude.  Our vision, sadly, is fixated on our navels, and unless we hear that different drummer,
it will take more than the proverbial shot across the bow  to bring us to our senses.............and
then???      And then it may be too late!!!!!

In our grandiose and ill-thought rush to create superior societies we have, instead, created
  horrendously defective ones - societies of haves and have nots, in which some people have
everything, while others are pushed, coldly,  indifferently,  to the brink of an abyss of
hopelessness and desperation.   Societies  which have spawned the corporate jet, and the luxury
yacht and the chauffeur driven Rolls, and  with it a  callous indifference for the well-being of our
less fortunate  fellowmen who are expected to consider it a wondrous  privileged to be allowed to
wash the mud-caked wheels of the lofty Rolls.  And, yes, with it there inevitably comes  the
frightening schism which unleashes hate in all its irrational fury.  

What we failed to take into consideration when our lofty blueprint  for western/industrial society
was designed,  is that man, as a race,  is yet to evolve beyond the  point where primal and
uncontrollable responses kick in when he begins to believe that coexistence between haves and
have nots  is a myth; and society's edicts, of which he - the have not -  is only part of the fringe;
has cast him off as fodder for crows and vultures.

Should we be saddened by what happened in America on September 11?  Yes, we should be
saddened for the lost lives of all the brave and innocent people who were mere pawns in the
lopsided  architecture of  our checkered society,  and the carnage into which its skewed design
has catapulted us.

Should we be angry? America is outraged because it sees the attack as a frontal assault on all  for
which it stands, all the precepts on which its fundamental rights were built.  But I think we need to
look further.......deeper. America was the target because it is widely perceived as symbolic of
what the haves of the world like to call civilization. But everyone of us who is fortunate enough to
live on the other side of civilization's fence, should nervously watch our backs; because if we are
not part of the solution, then we are, rightly, or wrongly, perceived as part of the problem.

And what is the solution, you ask? It is frightening but not insoluble, and if the necessary steps are
taken with dispatch, then the end result could be much more joyous than going on with life as
usual, while conning ourselves into believing that what we've seen is but a blip on life's radar; and
that no such dastardly act  could ever again occur.

I think we have been provided with an extraordinary opportunity to ponder the events of the day;
and to come together to correct it, as profoundly daunting an undertaking as it  may appear to be.


Wishing you vision, my friends.



P.S: This is a circuitous way of saying thanks to  all of you who showed  the interest, the
kindness, and the concern by calling and/or writing during the crisis.  


 # 12
OK Charles it has been two days now and your loved ones are worried
what's up you guys ok or must i go to the bad guys house and break 30 years of
non violence and speak to them with a "big stick"
                      love
                      buddy

Joyce wrote:

  Hello,

  I hope that all of you are safe and well.  I received this message today,
  and reading it helps somewhat.

  Joyce

   From Leonard Pitts Jr. of the Miami Herald.

  It's my job to have something to say.
  They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which
  troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting
  disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that
  seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering.

  You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard.

  What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our
  World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would
  learn?
  Whatever it was, please know that you failed.

  Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause.
  Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve.
  Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together.

  Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family,
  a  family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family
  nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous
  emotional  energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress,
   a ball team's  misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by
   the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because
    of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are
  fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We
  struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming
  majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God.

  Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us
  weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that
  cannot be measured by arsenals.

  Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're
  still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to
  make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some
  Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy
  novel.

  Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final
  death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of
  terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of
  the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before.
  But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us
  fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time
  anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and
  monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible
  in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any
  suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice.

  I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I
  think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble
  with dread of the future.

  In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers
  pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can
  be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened
  security,misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward
   from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too.
   Unimaginably determined.

  You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect
   of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well.
  On  this day, the family's bickering is put on hold.

  As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as
  Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish.

  So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that
  maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's
  the  case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange:
  You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You
  don't know what you just started. But you're about to learn.

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Forward A:
African Colonialism is Alive and Well

 Just in case you thought colonialism had come to an end in Africa, think again, it has simply changed its name.
In a sense the leopard has changed its spots Instead of being ruled by the former colonial powers Africa is now effectively owned and controlled by the Transnational corperations; in much the same way that the Dutch East India company once owned and controlled a large part of the British Empires dominion in India.

A few years ago South Africa’s Anglo American corporation owned or effectively controlled over 80% of the companies on the Joburg stock exchange. Even before the transition to majority rule Anglo American played a key role in South Africa’s affairs. Today its role is even more pronounced. South Africa’s premier Thabo Mbeki may be black and talk about ‘his people’ but underneath it all he is very much an Anglo American man. During my time in South Africa he was a frequent visitor to Anglo’s operations head Bobby Godsell’s residence in Hyde Park, Joburg.The two would often go off on fishing trips together; in effect Mbeki was being groomed for his current position.

Mandela on the other hand was simply a puppet figure. I knew an Indian there who in turn knew two of Mandela’s senior advisor’s; according to him they described Mandela as a ‘dom kop’, literally a thick head who could be easily manipulated and beguiled.

 He was simply used to pave the way for someone who would obediently do the Transnationals bidding, a company man, like Thabo Mbeki.

Elsewhere in Africa the fundamentals are the same even though the names, personalities and circumstances may differ somewhat, outwardly at least. Effectively the Transnationals rule through corrupt despots, brutal but easily beguiled tyrants or through the discrete manipulation of humanitarian tragedy’s and conflicts.

One such is the ongoing humanitarian tragedy in Angola. The current crisis has its origins over thirty years ago when Angola was still a Portugese colony. At the forefront of the fight to rid Angola of its colonial rulers were two movements, Unita and the MPLA. Whilst Jonas Savimbi’s Unita was backed by Western powers the MPLA was armed and equipped by the former Soviet Union; although both were fighting the Portugese colonials they remained at odds with each
other. Thirty years on and nothing has changed. UNITA and the MPLA government are still at odds and currently engaged in their third civil war in as many decades. Hundreds of thousands have been forced to flee their homes as of December 1998 there were an estimated 600,000 internally displaced people in Angola and at the last count that figure had swollen to 1.7 million.

Indeed the figures themselves make extremely sombre reading;1/3 of all children in Angola die before the age of 5.Every day around 200 people die of starvation. Angola now has the lowest life expectancy in the world at around 42.

There is however one critical difference to the situation, with the demise of the former Soviet Union there is no longer any super power involvement. Instead the Transnationals have stepped into the fray. In spite of the ongoing horrors and humanitarian tragedy Angola itself is phenomenally rich in mineral deposits, particularly oil and diamonds. And it is this that largely accounts for the involvement of the Transnational corporations. On the one hand UNITA supplies diamonds to De Beers which in turn controls over 80% of the world’s diamond market. Of course De Beers says it will not buy any diamonds from UNITA but on the diamond market there is no way that De Beers would know where the diamonds it buys come from with any certainty. In turn UNITA uses the money from its diamond sales for weapons purchases and such like.

On the other hand Angola has substantial oil reserves, particularly offshore and in the northern Cabinda province, both
 of which are firmly in the hands of the ruling MPLA. Security around the oil installations is further boosted by the oil companies themselves which employ the likes of London based Sandline Security as ‘security consultants’, in plain language hired guns.

Mobil, Elf, Shell, Texaco and Chevron are amongst a few of the major oil companies actively engaged in operations in Angola; in effect they are helping to finance the MPLA’s war efforts.

"We always take losses, then recover," one Angolan General told the BBC last year.. "If we lose a tank we pick up the phone and order another one."

Elsewhere in Africa a similar situation prevails.

Earlier last year oil companies in Niger delta were accused of turning a blind eye to human rights abuses. "The oil companies can’t pretend they don’t know what is happening around them," said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, an international monitoring group based in New York.

In one particular incident in January 1999, soldiers using Chevron boats and Chevron helicopters attacked villages in two small communities in Delta State, killing villagers and burning most of the villages to the ground.

A Human Rights Watch report describes numerous such incidents where Nigerian security forces have beaten, detained or even killed those involved in protests over oil company activity or called for compensation for environmental damage.

So just remember that when you next fill up at your local petrol station; the petrol you are buying has already been paid for, literally with ‘blood money.’

However it is not simply the Transnational Corporations that have embarked on policies that are little short of imperialistic. Zimbabwe, for example, now has around 11,000 troops stationed in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
According to John Makumbe, a political scientist at the University of Zimbabwe and a fierce critic of the government, "Zimbabwe seems intent on raiding the Congo and making it an economic colony."

According to him: "It won’t be Zimbabwe as a nation that benefits. Instead a number of individuals in the political elite will enrich themselves." Indeed Zimbabwe’s army has now embarked on a joint business venture with the Congolese army to buy and sell diamonds and gold. However Zimbabwe’s involvement in the war in the Congo is deeply unpopular at home, not least because of mounting domestic problems; inflation stands at 70%, health services are in chaos.

Finally, it should be noted that Ian Smith one time premier of the rebel state Rhodesia, recently addressed students at the University of Zimbabwe.Significantly prehaps, he was removed from power in a deal arranged by Illuminati front men Lord Carrington and Henry Kissinger. Now in his eighties and a little frail he received a standing ovation from a packed hall of largely black students. As journalist Russell Miller pointed out it is now not unusual to hear what would have once been unthinkable from many blacks in Zimbabwe: namely that life was actually better under Ian Smith than Zimbabwe’s present rulers.

Power, Guns and Minerals in Southern Africa.
Richard Stone In Southern Africa there is an area the size of a small country which is marked on maps as ‘Diamond mining area access forbidden’. The area itself is somewhat bigger than Wales and anybody who enters this barren area is intercepted by helicopters or four wheeled drive vehicles.

In effect this small country is run by the giant diamond mining conglomerate, De Beers, which in turn is part of South African mega-corperation, Anglo American. Valued at 21 billion dollars, De Beers is only part of Anglo American’s mining interests.

As time has rolled by and the regimes have changed in South Africa and Namibia, the regime in this diamond mining area has remained the same -- total control by De Beers, for generation after generation.

Of course this all poses the question, what is the real governing force in southern Africa, politics or big business?

It is openly admitted that Anglo American controls over 80% of the South African economy, which is vastly bigger than all the other economies in the region.Thus Botswana, a country with a small population but a relatively prosperous one is also totally dependent on De Beers Botswana.

It is difficult to overestimate the power of this company; they negotiate with nations, in fact one of the worlds biggest. For most of this century they had an agreement with Russia whereby they bought all of Russia’s uncut diamonds. Naturally this deal had to be renegotiated with the fall of communism, accordingly it was and the deal still holds. Thus De Beers has a monopoly over the world’s diamond industry.

However De Beers is still only a part of the the aforementioned and much bigger Anglo American, which controls most of the South African economy and through it the southern African economic zone.

Since its inception, generations ago, Anglo American has been controlled by one family, the Oppenheimers. A jewish family originating from eastern Europe, they were allegedly sponsored in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries by the Rothschilds banking and finance group; likewise the house of Rothschild itself is controlled by one family, the Rothschilds themselves.

Can we really believe that a company with such vast wealth and power as Anglo American is just a blind giant handing over taxes to the government? The truth is probably the other way around; namely that the countries of the region are the blind men being ‘guided’ forward by this mega corporation.

Recently De Beers operations in Angola were threatened when Unita took over certain diamond mines and began selling off a billion dollars worth of uncut diamonds.

De Beers took immediate action hiring the deceptively named Executive Outcomes.

In plain language Executive Outcomes is a mercenary army consisting largely of ex-South African, Portuguese and Israeli soldiers. In short order they can put 3,000 men in the field complete with tanks, artillery, large and small helicopters and even MIG jet fighters. Within eighteen months they had brought Unita to its knees, something nobody else had been able to do for over twenty years. Unita sued for peace and now they, like everybody else, kowtow to the mining companies.

Executive Outcomes chief executive officer offers ‘the speedy resolution of a conflict without partiality’. They have operated elsewhere in Africa, in Uganda,Sudan and Sierra Leone and further afield in Indonesia and Columbia.. Recently it was reported that the company had been disbanded. Perhaps that is so but it seems more likely that this is just a juggling of corporate names and the organisation remains essentially the same.


Extracted from the Seeker, PO Box 458, Devizes, Wiltshire, SN10 1UL, UK

Forward B:


 INFO: new book on slavery in modern africa
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Silent Terror: A Journey into Contemporary African Slavery

by Samuel Cotton

SILENT TERROR is the disturbing story of a black American's
journey into the horrors of modern-day slavery in Africa. The
author's odyssey takes him from New York to the Islamic Republic
of Mauritania, where he comes face to face with the Arab-Berbers'
centuries-old practice of enslaving black Africans. Samuel
Cotton's research exposes this heinous practice while documenting
and analyzing the hatred that the Arab minority holds for blacks,
both slave and free, in a country where everyone is Muslim.

Cotton takes the reader into the life of oppressed Africans and
provides critical insights into the use of religion and language to
successfully enslave blacks. He also shows the process by which Arab
masters produce docile slaves. The narratives he recorded from those
who escaped reveal the capacity for hope and courage. Interviews with
former slaves who have become abolitionist leaders show the path from
bondage to freedom and offer the hope that this grim practice will
one day be a relic of the past. Silent Terror examines why African
nations have been silent on this subject and the role that
neocolonialism plays in continuing an unspeakable practice.

This book is also a personal narrative. The author shares the impact
of coming to grips with his African past and identity and his
internal and external struggles to bring the issue of slavery to the
American public. He sheds light on the growth of a modern-day
abolitionist movement aimed at destroying the remaining strongholds
of slavery and details the difficulty of getting the Black Muslim
community to confront the idea of slavery in the Islamic world and to
get black people in general to deal with this painful reality.

$15.95     ISBN 0-86316-259-2,        240pp, 6 x 9

Published by Writers and Readers Publishing, Harlem River Press

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 # 13   Special Delivery to cmingus from cmunc Copyright 2001 Jane's Information Group. All rights reserved.
14 September 2001  Why? An attempt to explain the unexplainable
By Rahul Bedi, Jane’s correspondent in New Delhi  The origins of last Tuesday’s attack on the United States
 arguably have their roots in the 1970s. At this time, during  the height of the Cold War, a Washington shamed by
defeat in Vietnam embarked on a deep,
collaborative enterprise to contain the Soviet Union.

The genesis of the policy came to a head following the
Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, when President
Jimmy Carter set up a team headed by National Security
 Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski to employ its ‘death by a
thousands cuts’ policy on the tottering Soviet empire,
especially the oil- and mineral-rich Central Asian
Republics then ruled by Moscow.

A marriage of convenience

Thus began the US-love affair with Islamists in which short-term profit motivated all parties concerned,
but the deadly ramifications of which are haunting the world today and the effects of which were brought
home starkly to America earlier this week.

This ‘marriage of convenience’, consummated in an alliance with Islamic fundamentalists, particularly
suited the Pakistani military junta of General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq, which was looking for greater strategic
 depth and economic influence in Afghanistan and Central Asia.

The flip side of the wily general’s agenda was that this alliance with the US would also strengthen
Pakistan's military capabilities with respect to rival India with the induction of sophisticated US weaponry
 at throwaway prices. This was also the time when Pakistan made great strides in developing its covert
nuclear capability through a combination of clandestine transactions, outright theft and forging closer
military and nuclear relations with China, all connived at by Washington.

The US-led ‘proxy war’ model was based on the premise
that Islamists made good anti-Communist allies.

The plan was diabolically simple: to hire, train and control motivated Islamic mercenaries.
The trainers were mainly from Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, who
 learnt their craft from American Green Beret commandos and Navy SEALS in various US
training establishments.

Mass training of Afghan mujahideen was subsequently conducted by the Pakistan
Army under the supervision of the elite Special Services Group (SSG), specialists in
covert action behind enemy lines and the ISI.

Pakistan’s current military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, spent seven years with the
SSG and was also involved in training Afghan mujahideen. Provided he co-operates, he
 will prove a useful guide to the US in hunting down terrorists inside Afghanistan.

The entire anti-Soviet operation, headed by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and held
together on the ground by the ISI, was supported by generous donations from the US
State Department, Western governments, Saudi Arabia and a handful of commando
experts from the UK Special Air Service (SAS), while surveillance training, communication
and first aid help came from France.

Israel provided weapons like rifles, tanks and even artillery pieces, captured during its
many wars with the Arab states, while Sudan and Algeria contributed committed
mujahideen and religious motivation. The entire operation was, inexplicably but amusingly,
christened the Safari Club.

Fallout from the fighting

The fallout of this ‘holy war’, which ended with the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, brought in its wake a series of distinctly
‘unholy wars’ and ‘epidemics of violence’ in places like Kashmir in northern India. It also brought grave unrest to the
Central Asian and other former Soviet Republics like Chechnya as well as to North Africa. Now, it has been brought
 to the US, and to the rest of the world.

Over the past decade Afghanistan has been steadily devastated by internecine battles in which the Pakistan-backed
Taliban militia has emerged partially victorious. Nearly two million Afghans of the country's population of some four
million became refugees in Pakistan, Iran and Central Asia. The majority of those who were part of the jihad became
 unemployed, lacking food and shelter and, most importantly, patrons.

This, in turn, made them ideal recruits for exploitation by
the ISI and Pakistan’s increasingly fundamentalist army.
According to intelligence estimates over 10,000 Islamic
 mercenaries, trained in guerrilla warfare and armed with
sophisticated weapons, are unemployed in Pakistan today,
 waiting to be transported to the next jihad.

Osama bin Laden was one of many US beneficiaries in its war against Moscow. He spent years in the mid-1980s travelling widely to raise funds and recruit thousands of Muslim youths to fight the Soviets.

The rise of Al-Qaeda

In 1988, with US knowledge, Bin Laden created Al Qaeda (The Base): a conglomerate of quasi-independent Islamic
terrorist cells in countries spread across at least 26 countries, including Algeria, Morocco, Turkey, Egypt, Syria,
Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Burma,Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Indonesia, Kenya, Tanzania, Azerbaijan, Dagestan,
Uganda, Ethiopia, Syria, Tunisia, Bahrain,Yemen, Bosnia as well as the West Bank and Gaza. Western intelligence
sources claim Al Quaeda even has a cell in Xinjiang in China, a country that ironically was another willing partner in the
jihad against the Soviets. China wanted the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan for its own strategic ends and even trained
and despatched Muslim Uighurs of the western Xinjiang region to fight alongside the Afghan mujahideen. China feared
that the old Silk Route along the Karakoram Highway could, in time, come under Moscow's domination if the Soviets
were not swiftly dislodged from Kabul.

Chinese strategy on this front, however, had a negative fallout for Beijing as the returning Uighur jihadis fuelled the
already-simmering insurgency for an independent Muslim Eastern Turkestan in Xinjiang. This insurgency continues,
though the Chinese have managed to significantly counter it through economic sops, effective sealing of borders and
drowning dissidence using strong-arm methods,actions unquestioned by the outside world.

Washington turned a blind eye to Al-Qaeda, confident that it would not directly impinge on the US. By the time the US
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed in 1998, killing 224 people including 12 Americans, and the ill-fated
World Trade Center was similarly attacked around the same time, it was too late for remedial measures. It was this
reality that was  brought home with such an unimaginable atrocity this week.
Copyright 2001 Jane's Information Group. All rights reserved.

 TV show, a spinoff of x files states USA  military agency will destroy world trade cinter for fun and profit !!
Early 2000?

    Pilot Episode  A long line of people file into the illuminated offices of E-Com-Con Computer Corporation for an evening reception. On the roof of the building, Byers and Frohike, dressed in black, are gaining secret entrance into the building through a ventilation duct. A public relations woman begins to describe their "Octium" processor chip in glowing detail, but Langly, who is attending the reception, starts making cat calls.

     He accuses the company of embedding modem technology on the chip and invading theprivacy of users. On a cue from Byers, received on Langly's tiny earpiece, Langly begins to fake convulsions.

     Byers and Frohike use Langly's distraction to gain access to the secure room containing an Octium chip. Byers lowers Frohike from the ceiling using a powered winch, in order to not trigger the pressure sensitive floor of the room. Security guards, paying attention to Langly, do not see the incursion on their video monitors.
 As Frohike hangs from the ceiling, a slender bearded man, wearing a black trench coat, uses a computer system to take control of Frohike's winch, throwing him out of control. The man enters the chamber, setting off the security alarms. As Frohike hangs upside down, the man firmly kisses Frohike on the mouth, then grabs the Octium chip and leaves the room. Security guards do not see the man, but catch Frohike. They find Byers, and have also discovered Langly's earpiece. The guards demand the chip back, and when the Gunmen do not respond, a "full body cavity search" is ordered. Meanwhile, a strikingly beautiful woman emerges from a restroom, drops a wig and beard hairpiece in a trash canister, and walks off, miniskirted hips undulating.

The Lone Gunmen return to their Takoma Park, MD, warehouse office, having finally been released by E-Com-Con.

They still want to prove the company's planned invasion of privacy, but don't have the chip they need for proof.

Byers wonders if they are really making a difference with their work -- their latest issue had a circulation of just over 2,800, and they are "preaching to the converted." Frokihe is convinced that the bearded man was really a woman, because of the way she kissed. She is Yves Adele Harlow (Yves is pronounced "Eva") and has probably already sold the chip to the highest bidder. Wondering how she knew of their plans, Frohike finds a listening device in the office -- she has been listening to them. The phone rings and
     Byers answers. He is informed that his father has been killed in a one-car accident.

     At a cemetery, Bertram Roosevelt Byers is eulogized as a good civil servant who had a strong belief in the power of the government to do good, having been a civilian employee of the Air Force. His ashes are shot into the sky with a small model rocket. The two Byers have been estranged since John began working on The Lone
   Gunman newspaper eleven years earlier, walking away from an eventual government pension. Ray Helms introduces himself -- he was a friend of Bertram. He is not convinced that Bert's death was an accident. They visit the spot, underneath an overpass, where Bert's car ran off the road. Helms thinks Bert was shot and the car accident faked, because of something Bert knew. The Gunmen go to Bert's home. His PC has been wiped clean. Frohike slips and falls on wet carpet, then uses ultraviolet light to find the remains of a large blood stain. Hacking the raw data on the computer hard drive, Langly finds file directories of what appear to be government files, including one named scenario_12_d.txt.

  Byers concludes that his father was murdered at his home and the car accident faked. The Gunmen go to an auto salvage yard. After a brief misunderstanding that Bert's car is about to be crushed, they are shown the actual car, already crushed. Byers is convinced that somewhere inside the tangle of metal is an answer.
  Meanwhile, Langly is at a firing range, apparently near the Gunmen's offices, shooting at virtual targets. He asks another shooter for help getting into the Department of Defense computer systems, then notices a woman in another stall of the firing range. He is told that she is Yves Adele Harlow, and he has a brief conversation with her. She speaks with a continental accent and is condescending about The Lone Gunmen publication.

     Byers and Frohike have Bert's car back at their shop, taking it apart to look for evidence. Frohike feels that Byers is hoping to discover that his father was someone who he can respect. Byers says his father's stories of President Kennedy's vision of "Camelot" made John who he is.

Frohike finds a small circuit board in the engine compartment that was apparently
 used to control the speed of the car when the accident was faked. Langly's friend helps the Gunmen hack into the DOD computer and find the 12D scenario file. As they begin to download, a DOD worker detects the download and begins blocking it, accessing the Gunmen's computers. It becomes a race to see if the Gunmen can download their file before having their identify revealed. Finally, Frohike pulls the plug.

 They don't have the file, but from the file header they know that it deals with terrorism against civilian aircraft. The DOD worker apologizes to his superior, who we see is Ray Helms. Helms says it's OK, because he knows who it was.

     The Gunmen have pulled an all-nighter. They are trying to figure out why someone would go to the trouble of faking the accident when the body already had a bullet hole in it. Frohike speculates that maybe the blood stain wasn't Bert's blood. They return to the overpass and Helms drives up. They tell Helms that the blood has been tested and was not Bert's -- it was the assassin's. As improbable as it seems, Bert had just had the carpet cleaned and the assassin apparently slipped and shot himself. Realizing he was in danger, Bert hurries out of  his house and discovers a remote control device on the seat of his car. He puts the assassin's body in his car and fakes his own death. The Gunmen ask Helms for his password so they can locate the information on the 12D scenario. He tells them that it is "Overlord."

     Byers goes back to his father's home and finds Bert there. Bert slaps him and says he should not have gotten involved.
 The 12D plan is for a small group of government operatives to crash a
jetliner into New York City WTC in
 order to keep tensions high & increase
arms sales.
BACK 2 FWP
Bert is doing what he can and thinks he knows which  flight they have targeted. Back at the Gunmen's office, Frohike is working on anagrams when Byers returns.Helms is also there, and Byers tells him he has talked with his father. It was the plan of the government to flush Bert out of hiding using John.
Ray hurries off to find Bert. After he leaves, Bert comes to the door of the Gunmen's office. The two Byers head for the airport to try to find the explosives in the aircraft. Both board the plane, but cannot find explosives, using hydrocarbon "sniffer" devices.
 They realize that the airplane will be remote controlled, just like Bert's car was.
    Talking by phone to the Gunmen's office, Byers asks Langly and Frohike to hack into
    the aircraft controls.
They do and discover that the plane is programmed to crash into the World Trade Center.
 Bert enters the cockpit and tries to warn the aircrew, but they don't believe him.
Making a lunge, he deactivates the autopilot and the crew realizes that they are not in control.
They have 22 minutes before they hit the building.
Langly can't break the encryption on the aircraft control system --- his computer doesn't have the
 processing power and the computer keeps freezing. Frohike slips next door to the firing range and  finds Yves  there.  He needs the Octium but she is not impressed by the need to save people's lives.

 Frohike points out that her name is an anagram for "Lee Harvey  Oswald" and says he knows who she is.

 She uses the Octium  Chip in her laptop to somehow assist Langly break the encryption and give the pilots control of the aircraft again.   The plane barely misses the skyscraper.  ( Nicking the towering TV antenna causing sparks to fly )

As they leave the airplane, Bert tells his son that they are much alike, except that John has something Bert doesn't -- bravery.  Bert will not testify because if he did, his life would be in danger again. His silence will
keep them both alive.

 Back at the Gunmen's office, the three partners discuss their next newspaper issue.
 They don't have proof of the 12D scenario.

 Frohike says they can write about the Octium invasion of privacy. He holds up the chip. How did he get it?  After first claiming that Yves couldn't control herself because of their kiss,he admits that he grabbed it and ran.
                   
The dates for the episode "Three Men and a Smoking Diaper" are apparently set during the November 2000 US
     Senate election. This suggests that all previous episodes in the series are prior to November 2000.

!*FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI* FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI*FYI*

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                                                26 July 2001 'Blowback'

 During the 1980s, resistance fighters in Afghanistan developed a world-wide recruitment and support network with the aid of the USA, Saudi Arabia and other states. After  the 1989 Soviet withdrawal, this network, which equipped, trained and funded thousands of Muslim fighters, came under the control of Osama bin Laden.In light of evidence from the recently completed US embassy bombing trials, Phil Hirschkorn, Rohan Gunaratna, Ed Blanche, and Stefan Leader examine the genesis, operational methods and organisational structure of the Bin Laden network: Al-Qaeda.
 Al-Qaeda ('The Base') is a conglomerate of groups spread throughout the world operating as a network. It has a global reach, with a presence in Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Syria, Xinjiang in China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mindanao in the Philippines, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, Tunisia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Dagestan, Kashmir, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Uganda, Ethiopia, and in the West Bank and Gaza.

 Since its creation in 1988, Osama bin Laden has controlled Al-Qaeda. As such, he is both the backbone and the principal driving force behind the network. . . .

 . . . Vertically, Al-Qaeda is organised with Bin Laden, the emir-general, at the top, followed
by other Al-Qaeda leaders and leaders of the constituent groups.   Horizontally, it is integrated
with 24 constituent groups. The vertical integration is formal, the horizontal
integration, informal. Immediately below Bin Laden is the Shura majlis, a consultative council
. Four committees - military, religio-legal, finance, and media - report to the majlis. Handpicked members of these committees - especially the military committee - conduct special assignments for Bin Laden and his operational commanders. To preserve operational effectiveness at all levels, compartmentalisation and secrecy are paramount.

 While the organisation has evolved considerably since the embassy bombings, the basic structure of the consultative council and the four committees remains  intact. Bin Laden's intention to expand his operations has been curbed by the post-bombing security environment, and both Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda have become increasingly clandestine.

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 Osama bin Laden shown in a video grab dated 19 June 2001. He has controlled Al-Qaeda since its creation in 1988.
                 (Source: PA News)  

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6/\6\/6^?/////?^?^??/\\/\/\ Subject:
        Re: shock
   Date:
        Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
   From:
        Dave Beaudin <tamburi3@yahoo.com>
Liene

Here are some of my thoughts.  I've cc'd this message to some friends for
their comments.  Aside from a few leaders, the news has had almost nothing
about the thoughts of people in Europe...

I'm shocked but not surprised.  Some of us have discussed these
possibilities and we can be assured that it is only on step of a
continuous plan to take down the west.  This was a symbolic attack on
western ideologies and the global financial network that will affect all.
In the future we can only expect that they will target such things as
nuclear power plants and toxic waste dumps.  I don't think most people
realize what this really means yet, nor what we can expect from now on.
Their religious goal is to eradicate the "evils" of capitalism and
materialism, to free the world of all distractions in a way to focus life
on spiritual realization.  To them, it is the true freedom.  There is
nothing to negotiate.

The attack on Washington was directed towards America.  The attack on New
York was directed to the world.  The WTC was the world's global "city".
The residents can not be classified as "New Yorkers" or "Americans".  New
york is not really an "American" city, but a world city.

We only saw the end of the cold war, this is our generation's new world
struggle, only more viscous.  I suspect that we'll see NATO replaced by a
new organization for a world against terrorism, including the membership
of nations like Russia and China.  Eventually leading to a new global pact
against terrorism and probably, in effect, much of the Islamic world.  The
cycle of historic religious strife has returned to current world society.

I'm convinced ongoing military actions, abroad and on our own streets,
will occur.  The extreme terrorist movements have reached our shores and
embedded in our soil.  Attacks will continue regardless of the decision to
use military force.  Many Americans didn't approve of Isreal's methods to
fight terrorism, particularly the current ruthless terrorist hunts, but I
suspect the views have changed now.  I doubt no military action is off the
table at this time.  Probably more extreme than most want to imagine.  The
radicals cannot be changed or eliminated.  My guess is that the U.S. may
decide to instate a higher order of terror in the minds of the peripheral
supporters in the Islamic world, so there is little to contemplate when
taking sides.

Dave

n.b. Many of my friends and relatives live in the New York/Boston area.
Haven't heard of any realted bad news yet.


--- Liene Molly <lienemolly@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hi Dave,
> how are you? not too shocked?
> Everybody here is shocked, a good friend of mine is on
> holidays in America , her flight scedual was happily
> changed , otherwise she was in new-york on the 12th!
> You don't have any relatives or friends that live
> there and are missing? I hope not.
> We have a professor from the new-york Dental
> University here, he came here a week ago and stays for
> 3 months with his wife while his children live in
> California. It is creepy! We don't know what will
> happen next, because we live near Brussels (about 20
> km) and as that city is the capital of European
> meatings, we definetely are curious about what is next
> on their plan. My uncle is one of the Belgian Military
> chiefs, as I told you, he thinks this will not end
> just like that and we wouldn't like Bush to take any
> military actions, because that would really mean war!
> I don't understand why America wants to have back up
> from the NATO since this is not a war between
> countries but probably an attack from terrorists.
> anyway it is sad that something like that has to
> happen, but actually a lot people think that America
> has to pay because Bush always chose the side of
> Israel and that was not really clever, don't you
> think? I think he's a little too impulsive to be
> president? But I wouldn't tell him in person... who
> knows what happens then...
> Talk to you later.
> Hope everything is getting normal soon.
> greetings,
> Liene
>
>

Subject:  Our Humanity Is Still Here Date:      Sat, 15 Sep 2001 From:   
   Barney Rosset

We have some sayings; We shall overcome, Our flag was still there---
we,that part of humanity which  has learned, with such great sacrifice,
to try and learn to accept all of us, to take the risk to encompass the
multi-splendored  panoramas of all peoples, to allow the burgeoning
of such things as the right to speak out , no matter how unpopular
 your thoughts might be, to take the terrible risk of letting all peoples
proclaim their beliefs, without fear of becoming outcasts, are we now
 prepared to give this all up for the benefits of a police state which we
 have fought all these years to avoid, because one vicious group of
money laden killers has tried to destroy the very values which we claim
 to be part of us.
Can we  not understand, even while we understandably protect ourselves,
that despite the good things we have done to help others, has also
resulted in the protracted poverty and misery of so many in the other
parts of our common planet and this part of our lives has made us the
prey of the monstrous, anti-human , wealth endowed creatures, who so
often with our complicity, have found us only too easy a target for revenge.
Now our President immediately gets 40 billion dollars more for the
defense of our country - and just for a moment, let us imagine how this
additional 40 billion might be used.
What if we set aside a part of it, to be used immediately to set up a
world park where the twin towers had been. What if we were to ask all
countries and peoples of the world to work with us , to contribute their

work, their people, their individual expertise, to come, now, right
away, to help rebuild the infrastructure necessary for daily life and
then go on to making a glorious site for the celebration of holiness on
earth. Instead of God Bless America, how about letting Humanity Bless
Humanity in all its Sacred Forms.
Instead of phallic fingers to the sky, have vistas of beauty to the sea,

put there by all of us, owned by all of us, a place for Americans to
show their pride and love for all of us. Would the bin Ladens of the
world attack that symbol, shielded by the earth and the ocean. Who
would celebrate a destruction of that. Let that place, lower Manhattan,
pay tender love for those who perished there in order that a new kind of

human consciousness could arise. Let such a place start immediately,
with the kind of self-sacrifice now being made by American workers and
doctors and engineers and police and military forces, people of all
callings and religions, men , women and children, calling upon their
peers from all over the world, to come and participate , to alleviate
our tragedy, to make what we have lost become a new found value, to not
forget those grieving families, to retain this wonderful always newly
generated ability to work together, to regroup and regenerate new life.
Let us think of this out pouring of grief and love and generosity as
carving out the pathway for a humanity which can live side by side,
without destroying the very freedoms which it has created with such
bloodshed, because of the very weaknesses always lurking within
ourselves which we so detest to see from the outside.
Let a chance be given to a beautiful world site bordering the ocean,
singing a clear message, all are welcome. The bin Ladens will need
another target. Let us not provide them with more such symbols: twin
towers, pentagons, overgrown military installations, mountain hideouts
for the elite.
Intelligence can also reside in the soul, in the hearts of all humans.
Missile  defense  and bombs need not  represent our highest achievements.
 If we can resist the siren call of the closed society, the walled in special
people,and reach out to the real future, a place of holiness for all, in all places,
 a sharing of our bounties for the common good, not just for the defense of the
already empowered, but for all of us, then one can die, believing that there is
 a truly holy future,  and that what one has tried to do and believe in can be passed
on to that which we call humanity.
We do not need  special dispensation from outside forces, but we can gratefully accept
 help from others of compassionate beliefs. However ultimately and eternally
we need our own inner souls to rest intact.
Humanity, bless humanity.
Barney Rosset

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 Hey mister , check this out
   Date:  10 Sep 2001 15:45:09 -0700

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Jackson Arthur J Civ AFRL/VSBL <Arthur.Jackson@hanscom.af.mil>

Jackson Arthur J Civ AFRL/VSBL wrote:

  Liene, Dave (Psycho), all others,

     I'm glad Liene and Dave are conversing about these events across national
  boundaries.  Because more than ever people like us need to make our opinions
  known.  A horrendous event like this can bring people together from
  everywhere and like never before.  Most people realize that a line that is
  extremely beyond acceptable behaviour has been crossed.  We all live on the
  same planet, and scattered across the country and the world, all of us who
  are way beyond disbelief that anyone can do what has been done are close
  together in our sorrow, pain, disbelief and other emotions.  Maybe more than
  ever we are all from the same human family.

     I agree with Drew that we should "wait and listen and do 'our' best to
  learn".  I never watch TV but I can't not watch now.  So much is happening:
  opinions are being expressed; the horrible images in NY are depressing
  though the workers relentlessly cleaning up the mess concrete chunck by
  concrete chunk, showing an extreme of brotherhood and compassion give me
  hope; and options for a response are being weighed.  WE have to wait, listen
  and learn.

     Liene, you said you don't think Bush is clever and you think he is
  impulsive, though you wouldn't tell him that in person.  We HAVE to tell him
  that and I hope his advisors are telling him to "wait, listen and learn".
  America and any coalition needs to be careful with the new concensus against
  terrorism.  I hope that in being patient and not giving in to emotional
  tendencies an appropriate response will occur.  I don't want America and any
  coalition to blow a chance to bring the civilized world together by doing
  something impulsive and stupid which polarizes peoples.  I don't want my
  country to kill thousands more civilians or others in Kabul or Sudan or
  anywhere else.  I want America and the coalition to meticulously and
  accurately find out who was responsible and only then determine an
  appropriate response.  This is a good time for America and the rest of the
  civilized world to do what is right to protect us all from a horrible wrong.

  Artie Jackson
  Research Meteorologist
  Air Force Research Lab/VSBL
  781-377-2958
  arthur.jackson@hanscom.af.mil

  ".......Keep on rockin' in the free world"

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dave Beaudin [mailto:tamburi3@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 5:09 PM
  To: Liene Molly
  Cc: Artie Jackson; Dave Levesque; Joe Melvin; Charles Mingus; Anne
  Minnich; Craig Peritz; Drew Webster; Steve Whitmeyer; Chris Beaudin; Jon
  Beaudin; J Bradley; Cesar Cordoba; Jason Cozy; Dan Crane; Mark
  DeLaurentis; Damien Dezurik; Mike French; Larry Hirshberg
  Subject: Re: shock




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      Daniel Crane <dcrane@revolution360.com>
       To:
          Jackson Arthur J Civ AFRL/VSBL <Arthur.Jackson@hanscom.af.mil>,
          "'Dave Beaudin'" <tamburi3@yahoo.com>, Liene Molly <lienemolly@yahoo.com>
          CC: >

 From: Jackson Arthur J Civ AFRL/VSBL <Arthur.Jackson@hanscom.af.mil>
  > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:27:24 -0400
  > To:
  > Subject: RE: shock
  >
  > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
  > Liene, Dave (Psycho), all others,
  >
  > I'm glad Liene and Dave are conversing about these events across national
  > boundaries.  Because more than ever people like us need to make our opinions
  > known.  A horrendous event like this can bring people together from
  > everywhere and like never before.  Most people realize that a line that is
  > extremely beyond acceptable behaviour has been crossed.  We all live on the
  > same planet, and scattered across the country and the world, all of us who
  > are way beyond disbelief that anyone can do what has been done are close
  > together in our sorrow, pain, disbelief and other emotions.  Maybe more than
  > ever we are all from the same human family.
  >
  > I agree with Drew that we should "wait and listen and do 'our' best to
  > learn".  I never watch TV but I can't not watch now.  So much is happening:
  > opinions are being expressed; the horrible images in NY are depressing
  > though the workers relentlessly cleaning up the mess concrete chunck by
  > concrete chunk, showing an extreme of brotherhood and compassion give me
  > hope; and options for a response are being weighed.  WE have to wait, listen
  > and learn.
  >
  > Liene, you said you don't think Bush is clever and you think he is
  > impulsive, though you wouldn't tell him that in person.  We HAVE to tell him
  > that and I hope his advisors are telling him to "wait, listen and learn".
  > America and any coalition needs to be careful with the new concensus against
  > terrorism.  I hope that in being patient and not giving in to emotional
  > tendencies an appropriate response will occur.  I don't want America and any
  > coalition to blow a chance to bring the civilized world together by doing
  > something impulsive and stupid which polarizes peoples.  I don't want my
  > country to kill thousands more civilians or others in Kabul or Sudan or
  > anywhere else.  I want America and the coalition to meticulously and
  > accurately find out who was responsible and only then determine an
  > appropriate response.  This is a good time for America and the rest of the
  > civilized world to do what is right to protect us all from a horrible wrong.
  >
  >
  > Artie Jackson
  > Research Meteorologist
  > Air Force Research Lab/VSB
  > 781-377-2958
  > arthur.jackson@hanscom.af.mil
  >
  > ".......Keep on rockin' in the free world"
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Dave Beaudin [mailto:tamburi3@yahoo.com]
  > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 5:09 PM
  > To: Liene Molly
  > Cc: Artie Jackson; Dave Levesque; Joe Melvin; Charles Mingus; Anne
  > Minnich; Craig Peritz; Drew Webster; Steve Whitmeyer; Chris Beaudin; Jon
  > Beaudin; J Bradley; Cesar Cordoba; Jason Cozy; Dan Crane; Mark
  > DeLaurentis; Damien Dezurik; Mike French; Larry Hirshberg
  > Subject: Re: shock
  >

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Joyce Aaron wrote:

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  Subject: from my friend pat agre at memorial sloan kettering
  Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
  From:
  To:
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  Subject: Stand against terrorism Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:41:14 -0400
  From:                       
                                To: names removed by ED: pass it on
 ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________
  Subject: Stand against terrorism
  Author:  DABWEIN (DABWEIN@aol.com) at Internet                Date:    09/13/2001 10:20 PM

             I received this from my friends, the Greenes (whom many of you know, and pass
               it on, as I hope you will.  
                                                                   Debbie
                                ******************************************************

  We received this message from our son, Todd.  
His captain had sent it to everyone on his ship.  Seems like a good idea.
Pass it on, ok?  Tom and Sharon

  " Friday Night  at 7:00 PM, step out your door, stop your car, or step out of
  your  establishment and light a candle.   We will show that the world stands
  united against terrorism.  Please pass this to everyone on  your e-mail list.
   We need to reach everyone around the world  quickly.

   The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE  TERRORISM.

  " We need the press to cover this--we need the world to  see.    If you can,
  please pass this along to as many  people as possible.



  .......................................................................
From: clayton

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-000073776sep13.story?coll=la%2Dnews

--------------------
The Next Casualty: Bill of Rights?
--------------------

 By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
16
September 13 2001

Tuesday's onslaughts on the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon are being likened
 to  Pearl Harbor. The comparison is just.
The attacks were near miracles of logistical
 calculation, timing, execution and devastation
 inflicted on the targets.

There may be another similarity.
The possibility of a Japanese attack
in early December 1941 was known to U.S.
naval intelligence and to President Roosevelt.
 On Tuesday, derision at the failure of U.S.
 intelligence was widespread.
The Washington Post quoted an unnamed
 top official at the National Security Council
 as saying, "We don't know anything here.
We're watching CNN too." .
Are we to believe that the $30-billion annual
 intelligence budget, immense electronic
eavesdropping capacity, thousands of agents
 around the  world, produced nothing in the
 way of a warning?


       Editors Note :
CIA  
It's a dirty job, but somebody's
   gotta do it!
    $30 Billion can't Spend it self.      


In fact, the editor of the London-based Al-Quds
 al-Arabi newspaper, said he heard three weeks
ago that Osama bin Laden, now the prime suspect,
 planned "very, very big attacks against American
interests."

The lust for retaliation traditionally outstrips
precision in identifying the actual assailant.
 By early evening Tuesday, the U.S. national
 security establishment was calling for removal
of all impediments on the assassination of foreign
leaders.

 Led by President Bush, they were endorsing the prospect of attacks not just
 on the perpetrators but on those who might have harbored them. From the
nuclear priesthood comes the demand that mini-nukes be deployed on a preemptive basis against the enemies of America.

The targets abroad will be all the usual suspects--the Taliban or Saddam Hussein, who started off as creatures
of U.S. intelligence.

The target at home will be the Bill of Rights.
Less than a week ago the FBI raided Infocom,
the Texas-based Web host for Muslim groups
 such as the Council on Islamic Relations,the
 Islamic Society of North America, the Islamic
 Assn. for Palestine and the Holy Land
Foundation.

Palestinians have been denied visas, and
 those in this country can, under theterms
of the counterterrorism policy during the
Clinton years, be held and expelled without
 due process.


Tuesday's explosions were not an hour old before
 terror pundits such as Anthony Cordesman, Wesley
 Clark, Robert Gates and Lawrence Eagleburger were
saying that these attacks had been possible
"because America is a democracy," adding that
now some democratic perquisites might have
 to be abandoned.
 What might this mean? Increased domestic snooping
by U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies?
 Ethnic profiling? A national ID card system?

Tuesday did not offer a flattering exhibition of America's leaders. President Bush gave a timid and stilted initial reaction in Sarasota,Fla., then disappeared for an hour before resurfacing in at a base in Barksdale, La., where he gave another flaccid address with every appearance of being on tranquilizers. He was then flown to a bunker in Nebraska, before someone finally had the wit to suggest that the best place for the U.S. president at time of national emergency is the Oval Office.

One certain beneficiary of the attacks is Israel. Polls had been showing popular dislike here for Israel's recent tactics, which may have been the motivation for Colin Powell's few bleats of reproof to Israel. We will be
hearing no such bleats in the weeks to come, as Israel's leaders advise
the U.S. how exactly to deal with Muslims.

"Freedom," said Bush in Sarasota, "was attacked this morning by a faceless coward." That properly represents the stupidity and blindness of almost all of Tuesday's mainstream political commentary. By contrast, the commentary on economic consequences was informative and sophisticated. Worst hit: the insurance industry. Likely outfall in the short term: higher energy prices, a further drop in global stock markets. Bush will have no trouble in raiding the famous lock-box, using Social Security trust funds to give more money to the Defense Department.

Three planes are successfully steered into three of America's most conspicuous buildings and America's response will be to put more money in missile defense as a way of bolstering the economy.

*Alexander Cockburn writes for the Nation and other publications.

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This is taken from a Washington Post article:  A transcript of Mr. Falwell's remarks follows:

"The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this. And, I know that I'll hear
from them for this. But, throwing God or successfully with the help of the
federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools.

The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because
God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad.
 I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America.
I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen'."


-- Jerry Falwell, The 700 Club, 9/13/01******************************************************************


NATIONAL GAY AND LESBIAN TASK FORCE PRESS RELEASE

CALLS FOR HEALING, NOT HATE

Sept. 13, 2001 - National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Executive Director
Lorri L. Jean issued the following statement today in response to Jerry
Falwell's assertion that "gays and lesbians," among others, are to blame
for the tragedies in New York City and Washington, D.C.:

"The terrible tragedy that has befallen our nation, and indeed the entire
global community, is the sad byproduct of fanaticism. It has its roots in

the same fanaticism that enables people like Jerry Falwell to preach hate
against those who do not think, live, or love in the exact same way he does.

"The tragedies that have occurred this week did not occur because someone
made God mad, as Mr. Falwell asserts. They occurred because of hate, pure
and simple. It is time to move beyond a place of hate and to a place of
healing. We hope that Mr. Falwell will apologize to the U.S. and world
communities.

"Our hearts go out to the victims of this week's tragedies and their friends
and family members. We are thankful to the police officers, firefighters,
paramedics and other emergency personnel who are working tirelessly to
 lead the relief efforts."

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The words of Martin Luther King, delivered at Riverside Church, New York City, April 4, 1967.
  " A time comes when silence is betrayal. Even when pressed by the demands of
 inner truth, men do not easily assume the task of opposing their government's policy,
especially in time of war. Nor does the human spirit move without great difficulty against
all the apathy of conformist thought within one's own bosom and in the surrounding world.
 Moreover, when the issues at hand seem as perplexing as they often do in the
case of dreadful conflict, we are always on the verge of being mesmerized by uncertainty.
But we must move on."
 "Some of us who have already begun to break the silence of the night have found that
 the calling to speak is often a vocation of agony, but we must speak. We must speak
 with all the humility that is appropriate to our limited vision, but we must speak. For we
 are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us."
 "We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for the victims of our nation,
for those it calls "enemy," for no document from human hands can make these humans
any less our brothers. Å  I think of them, too, because it is clear to me that there will be no
 meaningful solution until some attempt is made to know them and hear their broken cries."
 "I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a
nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from
a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers,
 profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the
giant triplets of racism, extreme
materialism, and militarism
 are incapable of being conquered."
 "A true revolution of values will lay hand on the world order and say of war, "This way
 of settling differences is not just." A nation that continues year and year to spend
 more money on military defense that on programs of social uplift is approaching
spiritual death."
 "America, the richest and most powerful nation in the world, can well lead the way
in this revolution of values. There is nothing except a tragic death wish to prevent us
from reordering our priorities over the pursuit of war."
 "This call for a worldwide fellowship that lifts neighborly concern beyond one's tribe,
 race, class, and nation is in reality a call for an all-embracing and unconditional love
for all mankind. We can no longer afford to worship the God of hate or bow before the
altar of retaliation. The oceans of history are made turbulent by the ever-rising tides of
hate. History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations and individuals that pursed this
self-defeating path of hate."
 "We still have a choice today: nonviolent coexistence or violent CO-annihilation. We
 must move past indecision to action. If we do not act, we shall surely be dragged
down the long, dark, and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who posses
power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight."
 "Now let us begin. Now let us rededicate ourselves in the long and bitter, but beautiful
struggle for a new world. If we will but make the right choice, we will be able to speed
 up the day, all over America and all over the world, when justice will roll down like
 waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."
 May our country, on the brink of war, take to heart the final
refrain of "America, the Beautiful": "America! America! God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law."
                                Did I already send this to you??

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the
very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through
 violence you may murder the liar, but you

cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you murder the
 hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate
Returning violence for violence  multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to
 a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light
can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate
Only love can do that."


                           --The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Date:  Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:01:28 -0400
              To:  Subject:Re: fine print
      Z ero  I just received this and think you should read it.  ER
 Published on Sunday, September 16, 2001 in The Independent/UK

               Bush is Walking Into a Trap
              by Robert Fisk

              Retaliation is a trap. In a world that was supposed to have
              learnt that the rule of law comes above revenge, President Bush
              appears to be heading for the very disaster that Osama bin Laden
              has laid down for him. Let us have no doubts about what happened
              in New York and Washington last week. It was a crime against
              humanity. We cannot understand America's need to retaliate
               unless we accept this bleak, awesome fact.

              But this crime was perpetrated - it becomes ever clearer - to
              provoke the United States into just the blind, arrogant punch
              that the US military is preparing.

              Mr. bin Laden - every day his culpability becomes more apparent -
              has described to me how he wishes to overthrow the pro-American
              regime of the Middle East, starting with Saudi Arabia and moving
              on to Egypt, Jordan and the other Gulf states. In an Arab world
              sunk in corruption and dictatorships  - most of them supported by
              the West - the only act that might bring Muslims to strike at
              their own leaders would be a brutal, indiscriminate  assault by
              the United States. Mr. bin Laden is unsophisticated in foreign
               affairs, but a close student of the art and horror of war. He
              knew how to fight the Russians who stayed on in Afghanistan, a
              Russian monster that revenged itself upon its ill-educated,
              courageous antagonists until, faced with war without end, the
              entire Soviet Union began to fall apart.

              The Chechens learnt this lesson. And the man responsible for so
              much of the bloodbath in Chechnya - the career KGB man whose army
              is raping and murdering the insurgent Sunni Muslim population of
              Chechnya - is now being signed up by Mr. Bush for his "war
              against people". Vladimir Putin must surely have a sense of humor
              to appreciate the cruel ironies that have now  come to pass,
               though I doubt if he will let Mr. Bush know what happens when
              you start a war of retaliation; your army - like the Russian
              forces in Chechnya - becomes locked into battle with an enemy
              that appears ever more ruthless, ever more
              evil.

              But the Americans need look no further than Ariel  Sharon's
              futile war with the Palestinians to understand the folly of retaliation. In
              Lebanon, it was always the same. A Hizbollah guerrilla would kill an Israeli
              ccupation soldier, and the Israelis would fire back in retaliation at a
              village in which a civilian would die. The Hizbollah would retaliate with a
              Katyusha missile attack over the Israeli border, and the Israelis would
              retaliate again with a bombardment of southern Lebanon. In the end, the
              Hizbollah - the "center of world terror'' according to Mr. Sharon - drove the
              Israelis out of Lebanon.

              In Israel/Palestine, it is the same story. An Israeli soldier
              shoots a Palestinian stone-thrower. The Palestinians retaliate by
              killing a settler.  The Israelis then retaliate by sending a
              murder squad to kill a Palestinian  gunman. The Palestinians
                retaliate  by sending a suicide bomber into a pizzeria. The
              Israelis then retaliate by sending F-16s to bomb a
              Palestinian police station. Retaliation leads to retaliation and
              more retaliation.
      without end.

              And while Mr. Bush - and perhaps Mr. Blair - prepare their
              forces, theyexplain so meretriciously that this is a war for "democracy and
              liberty'', that it is about men who are "attacking civilization''."America
              was targeted for attack,'' Mr. Bush informed us on Friday, "because we are the
              brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world.'' But this is
              not why America was attacked. If this was an Arab-Muslim apocalypse, then
              it is intimately associated with events in the Middle East and with
              America's stewardship  of the area. Arabs, it might be added, would rather
              like some of that democracy and liberty and freedom that Mr. Bush
              has been telling them about.

              Instead, they get a president who wins 98 per cent in the elections
             (Washington's friend, Mr. Mubarak) or a Palestinian police force,
             trained by the CIA, that tortures and sometimes kills its people in prison.
              The  Syrians would also like a little of that democracy. So would
              the Saudis. But their effete princes are all friends of America -
              in many cases, educated at US universities.

              I will always remember how President Clinton announced that
              Saddam Hussein  - another of our grotesque inventions - must be
              overthrown so that the people of Iraq could choose their own leaders.
              But if that happened, it would be the first time in Middle Eastern history
               that Arabs have been permitted to do so.  No, it is "our" democracy
              and "our" liberty and freedom that Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair are talking
              about, our Western sanctuary that is under attack, not the vast place
              of terror and injustice that the Middle East has become.

              Let me illustrate what I mean. Nineteen years ago today, the
              greatest act Of terrorism - using Israel's own definition of that much
              misused word - in modern Middle Eastern history began.

 Does anyone remember the anniversary in the West? How many readers of this article will remember it? I will take a tiny risk and say that no other British newspaper - certainly  no American newspaper - will today  recall the fact that on16 September 1982,  Israel's Phalangist militia allies started their three-day orgy of rape
and knifing and murder in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila  that cost 1,800 lives. It followed an Israeli invasion of Lebanon - designed  to drive the PLO out of the country and given the green light by the then  US Secretary of State, Alexander Haig - which cost the lives of 17,500  Lebanese  and Palestinians, almost all of them civilians.

That's probably three times the death toll in the World Trade Center Yet I do not remember any vigils or memorial services or candle-lighting in America or the West for the innocent  dead of Lebanon;
I don't recall any stirring speeches about democracy or liberty.
In fact, my memory is that the United States spent most of the bloody months of July and August 1982 calling for "restraint".

No, Israel is not to blame for what happened last week. The culprits were
 Arabs, not Israelis. But America's failure to act with honor in the Middle
East, its promiscuous  sale of missiles to those who use them against civilians,
 its blithe disregard for the deaths of tens of  thousands of Iraqi children under
sanctions of which Washington is the principal supporter - All these are intimately
related to the society that produced the Arabs who plunged America into an
 apocalypse of fire last week.

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America's name is literally stamped on to the missiles fired by
 Israel into Palestinian buildings in Gaza and the West Bank.
Only four weeks ago, I  identified  one of them as an AGM 114-D
air-to-ground rocket made by Boeing and Lockheed-Martin at
their factory in - of all places - Florida, the state where some of
the suiciders trained to fly.

              It was fired from an Apache helicopter (made in America, of
              course)....  during the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, when
              hundreds of cluster bombs were dropped in civilian areas of
              Beirut by the Israelis in contravention  of undertakings given to
              the United States. Most of the bombs had US Naval  markings and
              America then suspended a shipment of fighter bombers to Israel
              - for less than two months.

              The same type of missile - this time an AGM 114-C made in
              Georgia- was  Fired by the Israelis into the back of an ambulance
              near the Lebanese village  of  Mansori, killing two women and
              four children. I collected the pieces of the missile, including
              its computer coding plate, flew to Georgia and presented  them to
              the manufacturers at the Boeing factory. And what did the
              developer of the missile say to me when I showed him photographs
              of the children his missile had killed? "Whatever you do," he
              told me, "don't  quote  me as saying anything critical of the
              policies of Israel."

              I'm sure the father of those children, who was driving the
              ambulance, will have been appalled by last week's events, but I
              don't suppose, given the fate of his own wife - one of the women
              killed - that he was in a mood to send condolences to anyone. All
              these facts, of course, must be forgotten  now.

              Every effort will be made in the coming days to switch off the
              "why''  question and concentrate on the who, what and how. CNN
              and most of the world's media have already obeyed this essential
              new war rule. I've already seen what happens when this rule is
              broken. When The Independent  published my article on the
              connection between Middle Eastern injustice and the New York
              holocaust, the BBC's 24-hour news channel produced an American
               commentator who remarked that "Robert Fisk has won the prize for
              bad  taste''. When I raised the same point on an Irish radio talk
              show, the  other guest, a Harvard lawyer, denounced me as a
              bigot, a liar, a "dangerous  man'' and - of course - potentially
              anti-Semitic. The Irish pulled the plug on him.

              No wonder we have to refer to the terrorists as "mindless". For
              if we did not, we would have to explain what went on in those
              minds. But this attempt to censor the realities of the war that
              has already begun must not be permitted to continue. Look at the
              logic. Secretary of State Colin Powell  was insisting on Friday
              that his message to the Taliban is simple: they  have to take
              responsibility for sheltering Mr. bin Laden. "You cannot separate
               your activities from the activities of the perpetrators," he
              warned. But the Americans absolutely refuse to associate their own
              response to their predicament with their activities in the Middle East.
               We are supposed to hold our tongues, even when Ariel Sharon -
              a man whose name will always be associated with the massacre at
             Sabra and Shatila - announces that Israel  also wishes to join the battle
             against "world terror".

              No wonder the Palestinians are fearful. In the past four days, 23
              Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank and Gaza, an
              astonishing  figure that would have been front-page news had
              America not been blitzed.  If Israel signs up for the new
              conflict, then the Palestinians - by fighting  the Israelis -
              will, by extension, become part of the "world terror"  against
               which Mr. Bush is supposedly going to war. Not for nothing did

              Mr. Sharon claim that Yasser Arafat had connections with Osama
              bin Laden.

              I repeat: what happened in New York was a crime against humanity.
              And that means policemen, arrests, justice, a whole new
              international court at The Hague if necessary. Not cruise
              missiles and "precision" bombs and Muslim lives lost in revenge
              for Western lives. But the trap has been sprung.

              Mr. Bush - perhaps we, too - are now walking into it.

              (c) 2001 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

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    24                                            
Bush's Faustian Deal With the Taliban
By Robert Scheer
Published May 22, 2001 in the Los Angeles Times
Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-U.S. terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization
in your homeland, and the Bush administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you
line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes
seriously.
That's the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of
Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The
gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent
aid, makes the U.S. the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that "rogue regime" for
declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban's estimation,
are most human activities, but it's the ban on drugs that catches this administration's
attention.
Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation
from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody
attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998.
Sadly, the Bush administration is cozying up to the Taliban regime at a time when the United
Nations, at U.S. insistence, imposes sanctions on Afghanistan because the Kabul
government will not turn over Bin Laden.
The war on drugs has become our own fanatics' obsession and easily trumps all other
concerns. How else could we come to reward the Taliban, who has subjected the female half
of the Afghan population to a continual reign of terror in a country once considered
enlightened in its treatment of women?
At no point in modern history have women and girls been more systematically abused than in
Afghanistan where, in the name of madness masquerading as Islam, the government in
Kabul obliterates their fundamental human rights. Women may not appear in public without
being covered from head to toe with the oppressive shroud called the burkha , and they may
not leave the house without being accompanied by a male family member. They've not been
permitted to attend school or be treated by male doctors, yet women have been banned from
practicing medicine or any profession for that matter.
The lot of males is better if they blindly accept the laws of an extreme religious theocracy that
prescribes strict rules governing all behavior, from a ban on shaving to what crops may be
grown. It is this last power that has captured the enthusiasm of the Bush White House.
http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm (1 of 2) [09/20/2001 4:58:44 AM].The Taliban fanatics, economically and diplomatically isolated, are at the breaking point, and
so, in return for a pittance of legitimacy and cash from the Bush administration, they have
been willing to appear to reverse themselves on the growing of opium. That a totalitarian
country can effectively crack down on its farmers is not surprising. But it is grotesque for a
U.S. official, James P. Callahan, director of the State Department's Asian anti-drug program,
to describe the Taliban's special methods in the language of representative democracy: "The
Taliban used a system of consensus-building," Callahan said after a visit with the Taliban,
adding that the Taliban justified the ban on drugs "in very religious terms."
Of course, Callahan also reported, those who didn't obey the theocratic edict would be sent
to prison.
In a country where those who break minor rules are simply beaten on the spot by religious
police and others are stoned to death, it's understandable that the government's "religious"
argument might be compelling. Even if it means, as Callahan concedes, that most of the
farmers who grew the poppies will now confront starvation. That's because the Afghan
economy has been ruined by the religious extremism of the Taliban, making the attraction of
opium as a previously tolerated quick cash crop overwhelming.
For that reason, the opium ban will not last unless the U.S. is willing to pour far larger
amounts of money into underwriting the Afghan economy.
As the Drug Enforcement Administration's Steven Casteel admitted, "The bad side of the ban
is that it's bringing their country--or certain regions of their country--to economic ruin." Nor did
he hold out much hope for Afghan farmers growing other crops such as wheat, which require
a vast infrastructure to supply water and fertilizer that no longer exists in that devastated
country. There's little doubt that the Taliban will turn once again to the easily taxed cash crop
of opium in order to stay in power.
The Taliban may suddenly be the dream regime of our own war drug war zealots, but in the
end this alliance will prove a costly failure. Our long sad history of signing up dictators in the
war on drugs demonstrates the futility of building a foreign policy on a domestic obsession.
- - -Robert
Scheer Is a Syndicated Columnist.
Copyright ? 2001 Robert Scheer
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