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Dennis M. Bushnell is the Chief Scientist of NASA's Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia.
He hails originally from Westbrook, Connecticut, the hometown of David Bushnell of Revolutionary
War "Turtle" fame, and they share a common ancestor in William Bushnell (1680-1733) of Saybrook,
Connecticut. He is a member of the National Academy of Engineering, a Fellow of the AIAA, ASME,
and the Royal Aeronautical Society and is the recipient of the NASA medals for Outstanding Leadership
and Exceptional Scientific Achievement.
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FYI 1. this popped into my head today.
http://www.google.com/search?q=atomic+pig&btnG=Google+Search
That's where I found a second reference for
Sherman Skolnick's Report
... a sub-basement. The compact, nuclear submarine-type
mechanism is called "atomic pig" because it is mounted
on legs in a room 20 by 20 by 20 feet. Occupants of ...
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TVE's Earth Report... ice sheet could collapse.
ice sheet could collapse. Earth Island Journal looks at ...or take the Ozone
Hole tour...From the Centre ...
at our online searchable catalogue for more
information ...
ice sheet could collapse. Earth Island Journal looks at ... or take the Ozone Hole tour...from
 http://www.techreview.com/web/schrope/schrope072501.asp
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I am NOT working with them but there stuff IS very nice To look at
The Venus Project http://www.thevenusproject.com/
Futurist, inventor, industrial designer and human-factors engineer Jacque Fresco
and his associate, Roxanne Meadows, have been working diligently for many years
to create comprehensive plans for solving these social ills.
This site is still under construction 4 floatingcity
LEO - Link Everything Online
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The so called face on mars is a projection of a desperate raciest
fantasy that extends to the delusion that no human of color can or
ever could do any thing " Great " like THE GREAT PYRAMID.
Adolph Hitler made the same assumption
about Jessie Owens and other Afro-genic
Olympians " Western man turns so often to
myth and out right fraud in order to face what
they can't except ." This would be a humorous
if not sad foot note of history, if not for the fact
as it is all too apparent, it is easier to lie about
previous spurious superior past civilizations
than to learn the lesson of there demise or
mythic fraudulent origins .
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I am beginning work on 2 or 3 versions of floating cities.
Bank model, Campus ,Resort / Retirement , autonomous city state
stile and grace are considerations currently consulting with a retired
NASA dude & a husband and wife team that are interested in it
they do modular habitats. One or there client is a municipal prison in
Bavaria, looks like a resort village with a track and a swimming pool
but the guts are vandal proof and easily made autonomous and locked
down in case of flooding or other emergency ...
Not thinking of this place as a submergible although a large disk or
oval is on the drawing board in computer #1 ...
Do you know any thing about the tube cities in China ?
Be well Charles
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As per our conversation
The text below matches almost to the letter or words to the effect, describing
The floatingcity concept.
I will assume it is public domain although it might have been published by the
government of China and they might disagree but the fact is an invention of this
type will be a first come first serve type of situation not likly to be patentable
As goes the law of the sea & sovereignty requires the possession of such an
environment as yet to be created and inhabited . ( as an autonomous nation state )
Any way it will be a Sort of ship with the laws pertaining to that unless it is stationary
then elections will likely be held and history will be written.
(Miles Standish eat your heart out)
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This text below outlines what I have been discussing for some time now called
Floatingcity but more fleshed out. You cant patent an idea nor should one, it all
boils down to which ever succeed to achieve the goal at hand.This system they
describe has a lot of problems political,strategic & mechinical but they may be
overcome by focusing on them and experimentation. But some sort of enclave
city will be built, as on earth now there are many communities that are only rich
and all of the tourist ports are segregated by economics ( a recipe for disaster )
and this system may not be an exception, but welth spent on life is better than
wealth hoarded in a bank as time goes by the US is geting that idea,
perhaps too late ...
We have no one to blame but ourselves, if we don't do it, we don't do it ...
dead link original
http://www.engineerasia.com/english/engineer/china/jz2000070603.htm
This is a floating city designed to accommodate
100,000 persons.
7 kilometers long and 4 kilometers wide with the capacity to be mobile ,
grow its own food,produce its own electricity and,owing to it existing
beyond the 12 mile (20km) governmental jurisdiction boundaries, create
its own government, income system and tax base.
In essence, this mobile city becomes its own independent country .
The structural for the project is electrolytic concrete made from
seawater mineral salts that adhere to steel rebar submerged underwater
with a small amount of electrical current applied to the bar. Over a short
time the mineral salts form the seawater accretes onto the steel to form
a concrete material. The process is extremely inexpensive and produces
reinforced concrete suitable for creating structures. The structure is built
underwater and is then floated to the surface when completed.
By pumping air into chambers and sea water into others as ballast much
like a submarine. The hollow body elements can act as filters blocking
out sea life fish etc. and prepair Sea water for aditional treetment of
desalinasation and hidrogen fule cell production utalising CP
Conductive Polymer technology (un-proven at this time ). ED
The city utilizes several different types of electrical power generation.
Five Ocean Thermal Energy Convertion units are positioned at strategic
zones of the city to supply electricity. Banks of free-standing windmills and
PV, photovoltaic solar cells produce additional electricity.
[ I propose Amorphous PV made from Conductive Polymer
skin for the entire external habitat ceilings & walls roof ] ED
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The "head" of the floating city is a small (No Go) mountain range with a specially
designed frontal structure that cuts Tsunami tidal waves into smaller, manageable
waves with little destructive effect.
It is a tidal wave barrier that requires the city to head into the on-coming wave.
An adjustable set of hydrodynamic"limbs" adapts to the needed amount of marine
agriculture garden area depending upon population need.
The "limbs"also reduce water drag when positioned together.
The greatest advantage to the city's mobility is that when it rests in one
place for a while to exploit the ocean's resources it can then move
onward so that that particular area is not depleted and can replenish
itself thus protecting and preserving the ocean's bounty.
In my version : The city grows its own food and is and agrarian-
based population utilizing advanced, nature-based technologies
that produce no toxic pollutants. Or absorbs and uses them at least this is the objective. ED
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"Living Machines" and solar desalination plants create and recycle
all water for human use.The city, in essence,is a living organism based upon
ocean resources and climate.
Aerial Perspective Rendering. the "downtown" area in the distance.
The floating city has a profound educative directive to its design.
View through an aero-taxi window.
Perspective view of a floating city neighborhood.
All buildings are made from electrolytic reinforced concrete and are
designed to be typhoon-proof, aerodynamic and structurally attached
to the main floating sea city structure.
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A large submerged metal mesh panel, like the ones used to fabricate the
floating sea city, is viewed underwater showing the cement like material
to form a huge reinforced concrete panel the metal mesh, over one to six
weeks,becomes encased with the cement-like material of ocean mineral
salts leached from the salt water.
Longitudinal elevation reveals the OTEC electricity producing units.
Elevation views show the 300-meter elongating Ocean Thermal Energy
Conversion units that adjust their length according to ocean bottom depth.
The web content from the now defunct web site with its illustrations
vanished with my interest in this project as mysteriously as it appeared
the uncanny similarity to my plan has cautioned me regarding further
disclosures of my exact plans and specific materials and devices one
might employ in order to achieve the final goal.
I wish this were not the logical & practical practical thing to do.
[ this collection of 4 or 5 pages are the fruits of 3 or years web searching
& reading ]
Having no funds to create such a device.
I have begun to cultivate like minded people professionals in the various
fields that are willing to share there time to achieve some of the basic goals.
To say the least security & sovereignty are now primary on there minds.
It will be always thus as to Nation States.
The simple fact is as we all have (re)discovered there is no security at any
price as has always been the case in nature we awake to a new equilibrium
each day.
So be it a university town Spring Break Party Spa , Retirement enclave or
floating factory/prison what ever there will there must be a vigilance on
board perhaps citizen soldiers all just like currently in Switzerland all have
training and each home has a machine gun with wireless vid links...
The president says we are ALL on the front lines !!!
Well if so, we all should be getting checked trained and equipped
instead of lining up for bio chips or what ever NWO Panic crap they
are planing to ram up us like sheep.
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Try it this it's very good
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Not Si-Fi
Some say its hoplessly hoakey but I included The Venus project is beautifully presented.
its lots of fun seeing the human ego at its best
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2 miles thick with 1 mile deep cracks called fissures its history is our
history too ..
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If you think war, terrorism and man made problems like weapons drugs & oil are serious problems get
over it nothing can compare to the potential coming global Earth changes that may flood most of the earth
effecting all population's with 200 foot tides for the next 20,000 years.
And you thought radio active waist was "the big secret" accident waiting to happen. Forgedaboutit!! Nothing
short of a new paradigm regarding our use of resources and global cooperating on an unprecedented scale
will produce anything like a survivable world.
Check it out for your self read between the lines try to visualize the reality and what it means. Let go of
politics race religion and any thing you think you already know about the "big picture" all history is a lie
in time, there can be a world that is unified by the common struggle to be prepared to live together on
the earth in peace and common sense or continue the descent into chaos and defeatism of war and greed.
++++ all of this was pree 911++++
XYZXYZ wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: XYZXYZ
To: XYZXYZ
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Wow ! Under Antarctica, Clues to an Icecap's Fate
might be the actual end of all human life ...
Thanks XYZXYZ.
It was grate talking with you such a positive energy... Wow !
Clearing the desk and gearing up I need at least a week ...
Preparing for the 18th ... etc .
Be well please keep in touch ....
That radio x ray satellite or one like it ( by NASA Landsat ) is in
one scenario responsible for the closing down of the cold war... It sees
atomic subs under Polar ice & Beer cans in the deepest ocean trench ...
Some 3 Card Mountie action ...
A very simple B/W image on the cover of Science mag 8 or 10 years ago
with a follow up apology to that DOD the following month regarding any
breach of security concerns ..
Oops !
Be well
XYZXYZ
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Dear XYZXYZ,
We seem to be on the same wavelength.
A review of my files has turned up a couple of reasonable
technnologies that have the capability of creating very large, floating
foundations which, in aggregate, have the capabilities of:
a: being infinitely expandable
b. remaining stable, even in high seas (immune to wave motion)
c. responding to short and long-term changes in water depth (due
to tides, ice deposition from the East and or/West Antactica
depositions of ice or other major sources of such changes.)
These foundations can be used as bases upon which a series of
individual buildings can be constructed within an extended time frame
The technologies referenced provide four useful functions:
1. A means for establishing a peripheral barrier that can serve
effectively as a 360 degree breakwater that can function during,
before or after water level changes.
2. A means for establishing a stable platform from which
appropriate buoys and weights can be launched for the activation of
mechanisms for generating electrical power from wave action.
3. A means for fabricating large, rigid platforms that can be
used as individual building foundations.
4. A means for supporting those platforms so that they will
remain planar..i.e. will not impart any twisting moments to structures
erected upon them
I'm clearly interested in your project. Do let me know how, if
and when I can help and what
basis for my participation you may have in mind.
Regards,
XYZXYZ
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XYZXYZ wrote:
Dear XYZXYZ,
An interesting conversation this evening that I look forward to
continuing.
Your remarks about Antarctica raised my curiosity. Found an article
in the NY Times: October 16,1999 that rounds out your thesis in disturbing detail.
If you haven't already put in in your files, you can download it from
The phrases that really surprised and disturbed me most:
"Geothermal and volcanic heating as well as atmospheric warming apparently
maintain a layer of liquid water and mud between the ice sheet and underlying
rock, allowing the ice to slide fairly freely ( The
italics are mine).
While XYZXYZ's remark about a city floating in the air sounded
funny, I seem to recall that Bucky Fuller actually proposed that such a structure
of great enough size and covered by an appropriate transparent membrane could
indeed be supported by atmospheric pressure since the greenhouse effect would
provide a net displacement of ambient air by the solar-heated atmosphere beneath
that membrane.
Do keep me posted.
Regards,
XYZXYZ
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XYZXYZ wrote:
Dear XYZXYZ,
Fascinating Stuff on this new light-weight carbon material. My
three year old grandson
and I have been having fun playing with the wonderful animated
models on Soda.
The Venus project is beautifully presented.
http://www.thevenusproject.com/
I was much involved with another intentional community program back
in the early sixties.
I was living in ( XYZXYZ.) XYZXYZ appeared on BBC one evening and
proposed a "survival" community that might be organized somewhere in
the South Seas.
But that was long ago and far away. As I get ever closer to my 9th
decade (which begins within the next two years)...new adventures are still
intriguing..but I find that time is an increasingly precious commodity..so I
entertain them very selectively.
This summer my wife and I will be touring in XYZXYZ,XYZXYZ XYZXYZ,.
After our return at the end of August we'll be visiting friends and relatives in
XYZXYZ and XYZXYZ until the beginning of September I
So.., although I'm planning to tour with my Lap Top in hand, but I'm
not counting on large quantities of creative output for the summer.
Again. Thanks for he E-mails
Regards
XYZXYZ
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This is not mine but it is possibly of interest
it's anti nuke with a twist ...
Subject: From their reactors to kids mouths?
Also check out other Nuke Info...
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This issue was as horrendous as it was stupid !
NIRS: 1999 Radioactive Metal Recycling ALERT public comment deadline 7/5/99
CMEP: Rad Metal 2/98 Update
Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project
Hello All:
We are happy to report that the US Environmental Protection Agency received just over 150 letters in response to their proposal to allow
the reuse of radioactive metal for consumer products. Only one or two of those comments were from companies. The majority of the letters
told EPA that consumers do not want any radioactivity in their products. This is an amazing show of our cohesiveness on this issue--
considering we only had 3 very busy holiday months to organize. Way to go!
EPA is in the process of analyzing the letters and will determine if they will go
forward with a formal rulemaking process within two months.
EPA has admitted that the number of negative comments will influence this decision.
Furthermore EPA is still taking comments despite the formal closure of the comment period on January 31 1998.
Therefore we should not let up on our pressure to prevent the release of this harmful metal into the public realm.
Please continue to send comments to John Karhnak john.karhnak@epamail.epa.gov. Please also copy your letter to me
Jessica Vallette (vallette@citizen.org).
Keep up the excellent work!
Direct your comments or questions:
Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project
215 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE
Washington DC 20003
phone: 202-546-4996 fax: 202-547-7392
E-mail: cmep@citizen.org
HomePage: http://www.citizen.org/cmep/
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CITY AT SEA
Floating City Protects Shore
(3 of 3)
[05/03/2001 4:41:16 AM]
[05/03/2001 4:37:10 AM]
Shortcut to PM CITY AT SEA FEBRUARY
98
Popular Mechanics: Technology Watch: Floating City Protects Shore: May
1999
Japanese Sold On Solar Homes May
1999
hi again Some of this stuff sounds familier some how ...
have fun
Be well CM3
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after the editing
Date:Oct 2000 Index b & other experiments
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Tele-immersion project on Internet2 page:
If you don't have internet2 access, go here:
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Re: FYI Have you ever tried searching something on dogpile.com?
Have you ever tried searching something on http://www.dogpile.com ?
It is incredibly thorough.
makes http://www.google.com look like a country mouse
Try a long thing like this on each >
the wireless world will eliminate the hierarchies of the architecture of
the space craft Example of google search below
sun-harmony.com ]
the wireless world will eliminate the hierarchies of the architecture
of the space craft in outer space the wireless world will eliminate
the hierarchies of the architecture of the craft
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Infoworld Article: Free software site makes programs that compete with
big-buck
Windows applications
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:52:34 -0800 (PST)
This InfoWorld (http://www.infoworld.com) article has been sen
to you by dan check this out...
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Free software site makes programs that compete with big-buck Windows
applications By Brian Livingston
READER BRIAN GANLEY wrote in, full of praise about a Web site called
AnalogX.
Sure,
there are shareware and freeware sites up the wazoo, and I could
write 52
columns a year about nothing but the latest shareware. But it turns out Ganley is
onto something useful.
For the rest of the article, go to:
http://www.engineerasia.com/english/engineer/china/jz2000070603.htm
WW III will be a guerilla information war with no division between
military
& civilian participation ...
Marshall Mc Luen
It is incredibly thorough.
Makes http://www.google.com look like a country mouse
Have you ever tried searching something on http://www.dogpile.com ?
Infoworld Article: Free software site makes programs that compete with
big-buck
Windows applications
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:52:34 -0800 (PST)
This InfoWorld (http://www.infoworld.com) article has been sen
to you by dan_ochiva@intertec.com
check this out...
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Free software site makes programs that compete with big-buck Windows applications
By Brian Livingston READER BRIAN GANLEY wrote in, full of praise about a Web
site called AnalogX. Sure, there are shareware and freeware sites up the wazoo,
and I could write 52 columns a year about nothing but the latest shareware.
But it turns out Ganley is onto something useful. For the rest of the article, go to:
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Copyright (c) 2001 InfoWorld Media Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Reproduction in whole Or in part in Any form Or medium
without express written permission of InfoWorld Is prohibited.
Dave Beaudin wrote: Tele-immersion project on Internet2 page:
<http://www.internet2.edu/html/tele-immersion.html>
If you don't have internet2 access, go here:
<http://www.advanced.org/teleimmersion.html>
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Re: Fwd: Production Mini-plants in mobile containers
In a message dated 3/17/01 1:36:02 PM, World Trade News,
March 2001 Production Mini-plants in mobile containers
"...Science Network Foundation (SCiNet) will supply to countries and
developing regions the technology and the necessary support for the
production in series of Mini-plants in mobile containers. The Mini-plant
system is designed in such a way that all the production machinery is
fixed on the platform of the container, with all wiring, piping, and installation
parts; that is to say,
they are fully equipped..." To see the complete news:
Production Mini-plants..
Developed by World Trade News
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1 FYI's Google Search: atomic pig & African Chocolate
FYI 1. this popped into my head today.
http://www.google.com/search?q=atomic+pig&btnG=Google+Search
That's where I found a second reference for
Sherman Skolnick's Report
... a sub-basement. The compact, nuclear submarine-type
mechanism is called "atomic pig" because it is mounted
on legs in a room 20 by 20 by 20 feet. Occupants of ...
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